1 00:00:15,790 --> 00:00:02,270 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:19,130 --> 00:00:15,800 network superior Wisconsin this is 3 00:00:21,890 --> 00:00:19,140 funders radio on the inception radio 4 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:21,900 network a weekly audio Safari that 5 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:23,640 features the newest and paranormal 6 00:00:28,279 --> 00:00:25,619 discoveries while highlighting the 7 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:28,289 latest and not to be missed truth funder 8 00:00:33,770 --> 00:00:31,529 com projects for truth seekers and true 9 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:33,780 believers this week's truth funders 10 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:43,260 starts now we're back hey everybody 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:46,020 greetings Bonjour ola this is mark 12 00:00:50,510 --> 00:00:48,570 schwartz CEO of truth funders um art web 13 00:00:52,639 --> 00:00:50,520 is not here tonight and he's sick at 14 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:52,649 home with the stomach flu and vomiting 15 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:55,110 profusely so if everyone out there can 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:56,699 just take a second to picture some white 17 00:00:59,930 --> 00:00:58,050 light send him some good healing 18 00:01:01,610 --> 00:00:59,940 thoughts I'm sure he would really 19 00:01:03,619 --> 00:01:01,620 appreciate it art if you're listening 20 00:01:05,479 --> 00:01:03,629 somewhere and relaxing i hope you get 21 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:05,489 well buddy and well we'll see you next 22 00:01:10,940 --> 00:01:08,880 week wow so i have been gone for the 23 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:10,950 past two weeks and where have I been 24 00:01:14,090 --> 00:01:12,450 well if you've been listening to the 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:14,100 show you might know if you're brand new 26 00:01:20,539 --> 00:01:17,130 well you'll find out I got married and 27 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,549 that's crazy it's it's awesome I am now 28 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:22,860 a part of a real cool Club which is the 29 00:01:27,649 --> 00:01:25,470 husband club and I can't believe it I 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:27,659 mean so much stuff has happened in the 31 00:01:31,789 --> 00:01:29,610 paranormal world over the past two weeks 32 00:01:33,620 --> 00:01:31,799 and I've been gone but I've been off 33 00:01:36,469 --> 00:01:33,630 doing something really cool which is 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:36,479 tying the knot so one of the major 35 00:01:39,859 --> 00:01:38,250 things that happen and I'm sure all of 36 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:39,869 you listening know about it unless 37 00:01:44,030 --> 00:01:41,220 you've been hiding under a rock for the 38 00:01:46,460 --> 00:01:44,040 past month is that contact in the desert 39 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:46,470 happened now truth thunders was planning 40 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:49,140 to be there and represent in fact I made 41 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:51,180 sure to plan my wedding earlier in the 42 00:01:55,580 --> 00:01:53,189 year just so that I would be able to go 43 00:01:58,429 --> 00:01:55,590 to contact in the desert so the wife 44 00:02:00,499 --> 00:01:58,439 then fiancé and I picked out a date for 45 00:02:03,260 --> 00:02:00,509 our wedding and we booked our venue 46 00:02:05,510 --> 00:02:03,270 which is extremely hard and expensive in 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Northern California but I felt great 48 00:02:10,010 --> 00:02:07,770 about it you know it was the really 49 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:10,020 great time of the year spring and then 50 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:12,930 when I was listening to the announcement 51 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:13,440 first 52 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:15,990 itd they released their dates and 53 00:02:20,330 --> 00:02:18,180 wouldn't you know it it literally was 54 00:02:22,130 --> 00:02:20,340 happening on the one weekend that I was 55 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:22,140 getting married of all the dates in the 56 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:24,510 world May thirtieth it's like really 57 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:27,330 maybe maybe that's you know what they 58 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:30,270 call synchronicity so speaking of dates 59 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:33,360 I hate to bring the story up but I saw 60 00:02:37,850 --> 00:02:35,970 it and I feel like I have to as those of 61 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:37,860 you who tune in every week no truth 62 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:41,040 funders is a website ww2 Thunder scom 63 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:43,260 that helps to crowdfund paranormal 64 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:45,210 projects of every type from research to 65 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:47,760 movies to books and beyond so when I 66 00:02:53,930 --> 00:02:51,150 hear space and crowdfunding my first 67 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:53,940 initial thought is truth funders but not 68 00:02:58,910 --> 00:02:56,520 today so I was just going through weird 69 00:03:01,690 --> 00:02:58,920 news as we like to look at you know the 70 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:01,700 crazy weird bizarre news of the day and 71 00:03:06,740 --> 00:03:04,650 did you guys hear the story okay here it 72 00:03:08,150 --> 00:03:06,750 goes so I apologize for saying this 73 00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:08,160 something you might get offended but 74 00:03:13,220 --> 00:03:10,500 just just know it's in a good taste and 75 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:13,230 it's a it's a little bit of a humorous 76 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:16,350 story as well so pornhub which is a 77 00:03:23,330 --> 00:03:19,709 pornographic website and they're having 78 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:23,340 a first-ever crowdfunding campaign to 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:25,920 film the first-ever porno movie in space 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:29,970 that's right that's crazy I just want to 81 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:31,850 say right now that this has absolutely 82 00:03:36,770 --> 00:03:35,130 no affiliation with truth funders but 83 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:36,780 that would be crazy though what in it 84 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:40,290 and I have to say that I might have to 85 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:42,930 watch it out of curiosity if it actually 86 00:03:47,690 --> 00:03:45,330 happened because how do they do it in 87 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:47,700 zero gravity I remember being 13 years 88 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:50,130 old and asking friends about that like 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:52,290 what do astronauts how do they do it in 90 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:56,370 space so anyways totally weird the scary 91 00:04:00,650 --> 00:03:58,080 part is that according to this article 92 00:04:04,130 --> 00:04:00,660 that I was reading pornhub has something 93 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:04,140 like 19 billion users worldwide so if 94 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:06,930 everyone out there gave one buck they 95 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:08,760 might be able to fund something like 96 00:04:13,460 --> 00:04:11,310 that which is totally ludicrous to think 97 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:13,470 about and there are so many jokes that I 98 00:04:17,750 --> 00:04:15,450 could insert here but I think it's best 99 00:04:19,699 --> 00:04:17,760 to just move on but I just wanted to say 100 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:19,709 truth funders no affiliation with that 101 00:04:24,830 --> 00:04:22,890 whatsoever and still on the topic of 102 00:04:26,779 --> 00:04:24,840 dates I'm sure you heard about George 103 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:26,789 Noory who launched his paranormal dating 104 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:27,360 website 105 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,120 paranormal date calm and I'm truly 106 00:04:33,950 --> 00:04:32,400 fascinated by this it just goes to show 107 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:33,960 that what we're doing on truth funders 108 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:35,969 is on the right track and the paranormal 109 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:39,360 industry is it's getting huge so what do 110 00:04:43,219 --> 00:04:41,430 you think this have you signed up or 111 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:43,229 visited the site I'll tell you right now 112 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:45,210 if I wasn't married to the love of my 113 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:48,090 life I might take a peek there's 114 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:49,710 definitely got to be some open-minded 115 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:52,620 spiritual souls on that website but 116 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:54,210 what's your take do you think that's a 117 00:04:58,999 --> 00:04:56,310 good idea and and I don't know have you 118 00:05:00,290 --> 00:04:59,009 used it have you met someone on it yet I 119 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:00,300 don't know can you meet someone that 120 00:05:04,939 --> 00:05:03,449 fast online i'm not sure but i love for 121 00:05:08,179 --> 00:05:04,949 you to call in and let me know your 122 00:05:09,559 --> 00:05:08,189 thoughts about this or you know talk to 123 00:05:11,119 --> 00:05:09,569 me about your time to contact in the 124 00:05:13,610 --> 00:05:11,129 desert and you can call into the show 125 00:05:17,540 --> 00:05:13,620 now if you like at one eight eight eight 126 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:17,550 nine one nine two 355 you'll also want 127 00:05:21,529 --> 00:05:19,110 to keep that phone number handy as 128 00:05:23,719 --> 00:05:21,539 tonight on truth funders radio our guest 129 00:05:25,850 --> 00:05:23,729 is Duncan Clark cameraman for the 130 00:05:28,010 --> 00:05:25,860 popular show MythBusters as well as a 131 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:28,020 drone operator and we will discuss 132 00:05:32,899 --> 00:05:30,270 paranormal episodes and Mythbusters and 133 00:05:35,089 --> 00:05:32,909 new questions about drones drone laws 134 00:05:37,219 --> 00:05:35,099 what it's like to operate a drone the 135 00:05:40,189 --> 00:05:37,229 future of drones in our society and more 136 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:40,199 and we will take calls from 6 45 to 137 00:05:47,329 --> 00:05:42,210 seven thirty so once again write down 138 00:05:50,059 --> 00:05:47,339 this number 1 888 91 92 355 and now we 139 00:05:51,589 --> 00:05:50,069 have space boys on the line so for all 140 00:05:54,709 --> 00:05:51,599 of you who don't know space boy space 141 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:54,719 boy is he's an incredible human being he 142 00:06:00,559 --> 00:05:58,050 is a musician and he created the first 143 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:00,569 project on truth funders that was 144 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:03,089 totally completed and fulfilled so he is 145 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:05,909 like the truth funders superstar he's 146 00:06:12,019 --> 00:06:10,080 also created the intros for several 147 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:12,029 several other radio shows paranormal 148 00:06:16,429 --> 00:06:13,800 radio shows including jimmy church's 149 00:06:20,869 --> 00:06:16,439 fade to black that intro is space boy as 150 00:06:22,369 --> 00:06:20,879 well as bill and nancy burns future 151 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:22,379 theatre which they've been guests on the 152 00:06:27,309 --> 00:06:25,080 show that are fantastic people so right 153 00:06:30,019 --> 00:06:27,319 now space boy greetings how are you 154 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:30,029 greetings and salutations my friend and 155 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:31,919 by the way congratulations on your new 156 00:06:36,860 --> 00:06:34,560 meta marriage there thank you yeah it's 157 00:06:39,390 --> 00:06:36,870 crazy are you married space boy is that 158 00:06:41,219 --> 00:06:39,400 okay if I ask you that yeah no no no 159 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:41,229 would question his off bounds with me 160 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:45,310 yeah I actually sir Lana and I met on 161 00:06:49,890 --> 00:06:48,130 yahoo personals back in the I guess it's 162 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:49,900 going to be going on for about 10 years 163 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:52,960 ago and that's how we met yes that's 164 00:06:57,570 --> 00:06:54,960 awesome so did you meet her in like a 165 00:06:59,400 --> 00:06:57,580 paranormal site sort of like George 166 00:07:02,279 --> 00:06:59,410 Norris thing or did you guys just meet 167 00:07:04,890 --> 00:07:02,289 somewhere somewhere else on that on the 168 00:07:06,719 --> 00:07:04,900 yahoo site itself it was basically just 169 00:07:09,719 --> 00:07:06,729 it was yahoo personals that I guess 170 00:07:13,170 --> 00:07:09,729 later match com scooped it up but but um 171 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:13,180 yeah we met there and we basically would 172 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:17,770 sold her to me or vice versa was we both 173 00:07:22,170 --> 00:07:19,690 liked the show called red Dorf which is 174 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:22,180 popular in Britain worse yeah she said 175 00:07:25,860 --> 00:07:24,490 she said she said oh well I think I'm 176 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:25,870 gonna keep you for a while you know so 177 00:07:30,589 --> 00:07:28,690 and a while has turned into 10 years so 178 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:30,599 it's been the best 10 years of my life 179 00:07:35,810 --> 00:07:32,830 congratulations it is so good to hear 180 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:35,820 yeah uh you know finding somebody is 181 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:38,650 it's really exciting it's invigorating 182 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:43,660 you know it keeps you motivated my my 183 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:45,310 wife thought so weird to say that I'm 184 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:47,190 still not used to saying that my wife is 185 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:49,210 phenomenal she you know makes me a 186 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:51,490 better person so it's really cool what 187 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:53,460 do you think about George Noory site 188 00:07:57,149 --> 00:07:55,120 paranormal day do you think it's going 189 00:07:59,550 --> 00:07:57,159 to be a success have you heard anybody 190 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,560 using it was it a big buzz at contact in 191 00:08:03,689 --> 00:08:02,080 the desert well surprisingly I'm you 192 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:03,699 know I guess I'm getting the exclusive 193 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:05,919 here first on that I hadn't heard about 194 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:09,699 that you know everybody needs there's 195 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:11,560 love in different ways it's just a 196 00:08:15,659 --> 00:08:13,000 matter of making the right connection 197 00:08:18,270 --> 00:08:15,669 you know so if somebody's going to find 198 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:18,280 a love connection through paranormal I 199 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:21,520 why not you know they're people who have 200 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:23,680 that same kind of love for that kind of 201 00:08:27,779 --> 00:08:26,020 thing and and so if they can meet on 202 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:27,789 that level then all the more you know 203 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:31,599 there's the world cannot be without 204 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:33,849 enough love and so if you can make a 205 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:35,680 Canadian that way it's that's the way to 206 00:08:42,690 --> 00:08:40,240 go that's awesome that's no I totally 207 00:08:44,430 --> 00:08:42,700 agree and I think that it's really cool 208 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:44,440 what he's doing because it does show 209 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:47,770 that there is you know I don't think he 210 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:50,050 would go so far as creating this type of 211 00:08:53,220 --> 00:08:52,480 site if there wasn't a an audience for 212 00:09:02,550 --> 00:08:53,230 it 213 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:02,560 paranormal genres is getting and I like 214 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:05,170 that because it gives more exposure you 215 00:09:09,210 --> 00:09:07,540 know two people worldwide about all the 216 00:09:12,690 --> 00:09:09,220 strange stuff that's going on in our 217 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:12,700 universe right um so tell me a little 218 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:14,650 bit about contacting the desert you know 219 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:16,570 I I heard there's a rumor that you were 220 00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:20,290 wearing a the signature space boy 221 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:23,380 costume which is like the full-on space 222 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:26,020 boy helmet and space suit can you can 223 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:28,000 you describe the space suit for people 224 00:09:31,980 --> 00:09:30,310 listening right now yeah basically the 225 00:09:35,970 --> 00:09:31,990 space suit is is almost like an 226 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:35,980 authentic astronauts outfit that the you 227 00:09:40,890 --> 00:09:38,650 know maybe the Apollo 11 or Apollo 12 228 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:40,900 would have worn on their journey to the 229 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:45,750 moon and but you know it's almost amigas 230 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:48,610 me space boy where I'm from Houston 231 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:51,070 Texas and so it's it's fairly 232 00:09:57,540 --> 00:09:55,480 authentic-looking and so you know it's 233 00:09:59,010 --> 00:09:57,550 it's weighty it looks good and I mean 234 00:10:01,830 --> 00:09:59,020 it's not something you would go down to 235 00:10:04,530 --> 00:10:01,840 the to the costume shop and pick up i 236 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:04,540 had a tailor-made and it definitely well 237 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:07,570 it definitely works it works works the 238 00:10:12,030 --> 00:10:10,570 crowd so to speak so you wore a contact 239 00:10:14,190 --> 00:10:12,040 in the desert and those who don't know 240 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:14,200 what contact in the desert is it's this 241 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:19,090 huge it's it's where everybody comes and 242 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:22,330 and like all the experts on all the 243 00:10:29,340 --> 00:10:25,120 different subjects of UFOs and ghosts 244 00:10:31,410 --> 00:10:29,350 and you know everything all the stuff we 245 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:31,420 talked about on this show it's where 246 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:33,730 they all gather and you can go and see 247 00:10:38,850 --> 00:10:35,890 you know it's a conference basically but 248 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:38,860 it's sort of the the up-and-coming the 249 00:10:45,660 --> 00:10:42,150 most popular conference currently in the 250 00:10:47,610 --> 00:10:45,670 paranormal industry so it was and it 251 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:47,620 sits in the desert obviously from the 252 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:49,690 name so were you hot in the costume at 253 00:10:55,170 --> 00:10:52,990 all well surprisingly Noah you know it 254 00:10:57,870 --> 00:10:55,180 was when I arrived with a with the 255 00:11:00,090 --> 00:10:57,880 costume I guess it was about five or six 256 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:00,100 in the afternoon so the sun's already 257 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:02,050 starting to go down and so I guess most 258 00:11:06,540 --> 00:11:04,570 of the heat dissipated and in and then 259 00:11:06,850 --> 00:11:06,550 where I ended up where Jimmy was doing a 260 00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:06,860 show 261 00:11:11,230 --> 00:11:09,320 that night they had I'm gonna quote 262 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:11,240 unquote on this one air-conditioned in 263 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:13,310 there so it wasn't so terrible in there 264 00:11:18,340 --> 00:11:15,860 so no it was quite comfortable and then 265 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:18,350 plus says I'm going to the crowd you 266 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:20,720 know I'm quite distracted because people 267 00:11:26,170 --> 00:11:24,110 want to take a picture and and so it was 268 00:11:30,070 --> 00:11:26,180 it was a win-win for me as far as space 269 00:11:31,810 --> 00:11:30,080 boys concerned so did you / you able or 270 00:11:33,340 --> 00:11:31,820 let me ask you this for other people 271 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:33,350 dressed up was there anyone else dressed 272 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:36,770 is like aliens or anything you know 273 00:11:41,980 --> 00:11:39,680 surprisingly you know even compared to 274 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:41,990 last year even this year no one was 275 00:11:47,170 --> 00:11:44,090 really kind of dressed up in the you 276 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:47,180 know the alien outfits or people looking 277 00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:49,370 like there were from the from Venus or 278 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:51,830 you know typical things you might see or 279 00:11:57,610 --> 00:11:54,770 hear in the UFO community when I showed 280 00:12:00,490 --> 00:11:57,620 up it was pretty much a one-act play 281 00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:00,500 kind of situation where I stood out like 282 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:02,750 you could not miss the guy coming up 283 00:12:09,850 --> 00:12:06,260 from the desert in a space suit and so 284 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:09,860 yeah I was I was flying solo that day so 285 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:12,290 we only have about three minutes left 286 00:12:16,210 --> 00:12:14,210 with you and I there's so much so many 287 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:16,220 questions I want to ask you but if you 288 00:12:20,620 --> 00:12:18,770 happen to see space boy and you were at 289 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:20,630 contact in the desert we would love to 290 00:12:24,190 --> 00:12:22,340 hear from you in the next three or four 291 00:12:27,940 --> 00:12:24,200 minutes you can call us at one eight 292 00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:27,950 eight eight nine one nine two 355 that's 293 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:34,220 8 8 8 9 192 355 so basically space boy 294 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:38,270 you were you must have gotten all sorts 295 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:40,010 of attention from everybody if you were 296 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:43,700 the only one kind of dressed up um where 297 00:12:48,070 --> 00:12:45,680 did you meet anybody like who was who 298 00:12:51,610 --> 00:12:48,080 was the most incredible person that you 299 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:51,620 either a met or B saw live and gave the 300 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:54,890 most incredible and great talk well the 301 00:12:59,440 --> 00:12:57,650 thing is that with that space suit it 302 00:13:01,690 --> 00:12:59,450 can opened up a lot of doors for me and 303 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:01,700 I had met some of these people last year 304 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:05,090 like Linda Moulton Howe and she's just a 305 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:06,830 wonderful great lady to get to know 306 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:10,070 animal yes sir and her delivery is like 307 00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:12,590 impeccable it is a little bit i get rid 308 00:13:17,190 --> 00:13:14,750 of every time i hear her I'm all I'm 309 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:17,200 always I'm always impressed with her 310 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:19,730 presentations and I mean it's just it's 311 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:20,690 always spot-on 312 00:13:24,910 --> 00:13:22,250 it's always engaging to listen to her 313 00:13:28,990 --> 00:13:24,920 and but I mean as far as people you know 314 00:13:31,060 --> 00:13:29,000 I'm Etsuko loose and you know I met van 315 00:13:33,370 --> 00:13:31,070 Daniken was the most interesting one 316 00:13:34,540 --> 00:13:33,380 here I was this guy in the spacesuit I 317 00:13:37,660 --> 00:13:34,550 said hey can I get a picture with you 318 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:37,670 and he was a little I guess confused by 319 00:13:41,830 --> 00:13:39,170 it but they kind of went with it like a 320 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:41,840 good guy and you know Stan Friedman 321 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:43,760 which was awesome to see him this year 322 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:46,190 because last year he had that stroke and 323 00:13:51,580 --> 00:13:49,070 but he looked great he was in command 324 00:13:54,610 --> 00:13:51,590 and in charge and so yeah and then of 325 00:13:57,460 --> 00:13:54,620 course one of my favorites Jim Marrs I 326 00:13:59,170 --> 00:13:57,470 always like listen in the gym he's one 327 00:14:01,450 --> 00:13:59,180 of my favorite and kind of partially 328 00:14:04,390 --> 00:14:01,460 because he's a Texan as well and so I I 329 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:04,400 get along with him fabulously that's 330 00:14:08,950 --> 00:14:06,980 that's awesome oh man I'm gonna have to 331 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:08,960 talk with you offline hear more of your 332 00:14:13,780 --> 00:14:11,810 stories or maybe we can get you back on 333 00:14:16,570 --> 00:14:13,790 the air next week or the week after and 334 00:14:18,370 --> 00:14:16,580 we can have some personal space boy time 335 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:18,380 with the rest of the truth funders 336 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:20,450 audience that would be great I want to 337 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:22,520 thank you so much for for coming on and 338 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:23,990 talking to us a little bit about it 339 00:14:28,630 --> 00:14:26,510 there's so much more to hear and and you 340 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:28,640 know what we will definitely get you on 341 00:14:32,890 --> 00:14:31,250 space boy and talk about some of the the 342 00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:32,900 cool little intimate stories that 343 00:14:38,020 --> 00:14:36,500 happened add contact in the desert well 344 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:38,030 thank you Mark I appreciate it and you 345 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:40,370 know as always I believe in the truth 346 00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:42,890 funders campaign so if you need me for 347 00:14:47,470 --> 00:14:44,870 anything you know where to find this old 348 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:47,480 Texan definitely definitely we should do 349 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:49,310 some co-hosting some time to you should 350 00:14:54,220 --> 00:14:51,650 come on and be like a co-host with me 351 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:54,230 for an episode if you know art sick one 352 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:56,090 week or if I'm sick one week you can 353 00:14:59,920 --> 00:14:57,770 hang out with art I think that'd be a 354 00:15:03,000 --> 00:14:59,930 lot of fun now would just let me know 355 00:15:10,350 --> 00:15:03,010 alright sounds good everybody space boy 356 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:10,360 will cheers all right so next up we have 357 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:14,510 Duncan Clark and Duncan is for those of 358 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:18,110 you who are just tuning in Duncan is the 359 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:20,890 cameraman for popular show MythBusters 360 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:24,320 and he's also a drone operator now 361 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:27,650 there's not a lot of Drew camera drone 362 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:30,650 operators out there but I guess they're 363 00:15:34,420 --> 00:15:33,290 starting to be more and more and as time 364 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:34,430 is going on 365 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:36,529 amazon wants to create an army of drones 366 00:15:42,430 --> 00:15:38,930 to deliver packages I think there was a 367 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:42,440 episode of Parks and Recreation I saw 368 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:44,210 where they were sort of making fun of 369 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:47,210 this idea and there was drones dropping 370 00:15:52,510 --> 00:15:49,430 off packages at people's houses with 371 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:52,520 stuff that was uh you know personalized 372 00:15:59,199 --> 00:15:55,370 for them and it was really creeping out 373 00:16:01,060 --> 00:15:59,209 the people in parks and rec so yeah I 374 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:01,070 want it I want to introduce everybody to 375 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:03,350 Duncan Clark so Duncan are you there I 376 00:16:08,590 --> 00:16:06,050 sure am how are you mark I'm doing well 377 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:08,600 how are you I'm doing quite well thank 378 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:11,720 you excellent so for people who are 379 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:14,330 listening and want to know a little bit 380 00:16:19,660 --> 00:16:16,700 about you and and what you do I would 381 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:19,670 love to hear little introduction what 382 00:16:26,290 --> 00:16:21,730 what do you have to say for yourself sir 383 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:26,300 well um I indeed I am one of the 384 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:29,870 cameraman for Mythbusters and I've been 385 00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:31,490 with the show for about nine years now 386 00:16:38,829 --> 00:16:35,750 Wow and you know I mean for me it was I 387 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:38,839 mean really a dream come true to to get 388 00:16:44,190 --> 00:16:41,270 that job and I've sort of worked my way 389 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:44,200 up I started actually as an intern and 390 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:46,880 now I'm one of the one of the camera 391 00:16:52,180 --> 00:16:49,130 operators so I've I'm feel very 392 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:52,190 fortunate to be where I am today but for 393 00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:56,060 me it's really a cool opportunity i mean 394 00:17:00,940 --> 00:16:58,430 it's it's been kind of a dream for the 395 00:17:03,070 --> 00:17:00,950 last nine years because it's it's like 396 00:17:05,470 --> 00:17:03,080 the perfect combination of my interests 397 00:17:07,449 --> 00:17:05,480 it's a you know I I have this real 398 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:07,459 artistic side and you know i love the 399 00:17:13,230 --> 00:17:10,910 aesthetic value of things but you know 400 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:13,240 i'm also really into the sciences and 401 00:17:20,169 --> 00:17:16,990 science technology engineering and 402 00:17:21,850 --> 00:17:20,179 working on Mythbusters is is really a 403 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:21,860 combination of those things you know I'm 404 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:24,110 doing I'm doing camera work which is 405 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:26,150 very much an art but at the same time 406 00:17:30,370 --> 00:17:27,610 we're doing you know really cool 407 00:17:32,530 --> 00:17:30,380 experiments and you know all the while 408 00:17:35,470 --> 00:17:32,540 that were that we're making the show you 409 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,480 know I'm learning so much about you know 410 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:37,840 technology science in our world and so 411 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:42,320 it's been really cool and you know you 412 00:17:48,130 --> 00:17:44,000 know I've been really fortunate to have 413 00:17:50,530 --> 00:17:48,140 the job but but yeah you know k 414 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:50,540 work is what I do professionally but you 415 00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:52,850 know I like I said I also always you 416 00:17:58,180 --> 00:17:54,620 know I'm always sort of investigating 417 00:18:01,300 --> 00:17:58,190 you know topics of Engineering and 418 00:18:04,110 --> 00:18:01,310 Technology and you know that has sort of 419 00:18:07,210 --> 00:18:04,120 letting led me to get into the whole 420 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:07,220 drone revolution that you know I'm sure 421 00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:09,410 you know everyone out there is starting 422 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:12,860 to become aware of yeah and and I want 423 00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:14,810 to definitely get to the drone stuff I 424 00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:16,880 think that is probably going to be the 425 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:19,820 the main part of our conversation today 426 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:21,530 because there's just so much to talk 427 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:23,840 about with all the new laws that are 428 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:26,570 coming out or trying to be created sort 429 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:28,880 of the uprising of the drones some 430 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:30,710 people are afraid of it some people 431 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:32,900 think it's the best thing to come out 432 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:35,510 since sliced bread and I definitely want 433 00:18:40,690 --> 00:18:37,970 to get there um but just maybe for the 434 00:18:42,850 --> 00:18:40,700 next ten minutes before before our first 435 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:42,860 break for the show I'd love to know a 436 00:18:48,070 --> 00:18:45,650 little bit more about you know what 437 00:18:50,290 --> 00:18:48,080 you've worked on on Mythbusters or have 438 00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:50,300 there been any paranormal episodes that 439 00:18:57,490 --> 00:18:53,350 that you have been a part of that you've 440 00:19:02,050 --> 00:18:57,500 really been interested in or that have 441 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:02,060 turned some heads or you know anything 442 00:19:07,570 --> 00:19:04,370 that that you can think of that's just 443 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:07,580 been kind of cool and out there that you 444 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:11,450 guys have helped bring to light sure 445 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:14,960 well you know i mean the paranormal is 446 00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:18,410 definitely you know a topic that that 447 00:19:22,930 --> 00:19:20,120 turns a lot of heads you know especially 448 00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:22,940 amongst the scientific community and so 449 00:19:27,340 --> 00:19:25,940 you know most and actually right there 450 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:27,350 if I could stop you just for a second 451 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:29,810 I'm sir you know untruth wonders we we 452 00:19:34,110 --> 00:19:31,610 look at both sides of things and it's 453 00:19:36,580 --> 00:19:34,120 really important that we kind of get the 454 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:36,590 paranormal point of view as well as a 455 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:39,530 scientific point of view and we had dr. 456 00:19:45,610 --> 00:19:42,080 David Schwartz from the USGS on you know 457 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:45,620 one week and then we had suspicious 458 00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:47,930 observers on the next week and just 459 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:50,900 seeing kind of both sides so I one thing 460 00:19:57,310 --> 00:19:53,660 that I think is interesting is that no 461 00:19:59,260 --> 00:19:57,320 Mythbusters tries to look at myths to so 462 00:20:01,240 --> 00:19:59,270 didn't mean to cut you off but I just 463 00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:01,250 wanted to say that we're interested in 464 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:01,820 in 465 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:04,310 all sides of the spectrum here we just 466 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:06,170 want to know the truth and I think 467 00:20:11,950 --> 00:20:08,960 that's one thing that Mythbusters tries 468 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:11,960 to do and I think some people don't you 469 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:13,790 know might not agree with everything but 470 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:15,710 it's really interesting to see it all 471 00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:19,310 happen you know what no matter what side 472 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:21,980 of the fence people might be on sure 473 00:20:29,380 --> 00:20:26,030 well you know we in producing the show 474 00:20:32,370 --> 00:20:29,390 we we do our best to adhere to the 475 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:32,380 scientific method and you know 476 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:34,370 everything you know all the experiments 477 00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:37,880 we do are real and thought out and you 478 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:41,960 know we base our results on on the you 479 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:43,970 know the evidence that we get and you 480 00:20:49,090 --> 00:20:45,710 know the data from our experiments and 481 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:49,100 then we you know we we determine the 482 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:51,110 plausibility of the myth based on our 483 00:20:56,890 --> 00:20:54,710 experimental results and of course you 484 00:20:59,170 --> 00:20:56,900 know in you know in the in the 485 00:21:01,810 --> 00:20:59,180 scientific method you know you can only 486 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:01,820 ever have a theory until you know 487 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:03,410 somebody comes out with and with a 488 00:21:09,610 --> 00:21:07,010 better theory show them and you know I 489 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:09,620 mean I guess you know one of the things 490 00:21:14,050 --> 00:21:11,990 that that I feel like you know that I'd 491 00:21:17,530 --> 00:21:14,060 like to share is sort of the there have 492 00:21:20,290 --> 00:21:17,540 been a number of myths that you know the 493 00:21:25,210 --> 00:21:20,300 most interesting ones to me are the ones 494 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:25,220 that have a result that is glaringly 495 00:21:30,580 --> 00:21:28,730 obvious and you know when we when we 496 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:30,590 start you know and of course I'll 497 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:32,510 preface this all by saying you know 498 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,510 these are all my opinions and you know I 499 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:37,360 don't want to I don't want to represent 500 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:40,870 you know the you know the opinions of 501 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:44,060 Mythbusters the the show but sure you 502 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:47,330 know for me personally you know a lot of 503 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:49,570 times we'll go into these stories and 504 00:21:56,170 --> 00:21:52,850 you know the myth is is there for us to 505 00:21:58,500 --> 00:21:56,180 for us to investigate and you know 506 00:22:01,030 --> 00:21:58,510 initially you know they're you kind of 507 00:22:03,220 --> 00:22:01,040 you have that feeling like oh well you 508 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:03,230 know that sounds kind of far-fetched or 509 00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:05,210 you know that you know that that sounds 510 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:07,540 almost silly it you know at times and 511 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:09,710 you know then you start investigating 512 00:22:15,549 --> 00:22:13,430 these stories and and sort of the most 513 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:15,559 gratifying ones are when 514 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:19,210 when the result you know happens and 515 00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,460 you're kind of shocked you're like wow 516 00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:24,799 like I can't believe that that actually 517 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,289 happened the way that you know people 518 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:30,080 thought it might have happened so so 519 00:22:36,009 --> 00:22:32,929 what's a good example of that well 11 520 00:22:39,789 --> 00:22:36,019 funny one that we did a while back was 521 00:22:42,460 --> 00:22:39,799 the myth of the falling blue ice so I 522 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:42,470 can't recall where where it happened but 523 00:22:47,019 --> 00:22:43,940 somewhere in the middle of the country 524 00:22:51,489 --> 00:22:47,029 uh people all of a sudden started 525 00:22:54,489 --> 00:22:51,499 reporting that large chunks of blue ice 526 00:22:56,889 --> 00:22:54,499 were falling out of the sky and you know 527 00:22:58,210 --> 00:22:56,899 either crashing through their roofs you 528 00:22:59,950 --> 00:22:58,220 know i think i think if i remember 529 00:23:02,109 --> 00:22:59,960 correctly you know somebody had this 530 00:23:04,029 --> 00:23:02,119 chunk of blue ice fall through her roof 531 00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:04,039 and you know landed in her living room 532 00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:05,960 and then somebody else's car maybe got 533 00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,080 hit by one and so people were like what 534 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:11,600 in the world is causing this like how 535 00:23:18,609 --> 00:23:15,049 how's blue i like in by blue i mean very 536 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:18,619 blue blue like um like a breaking bad 537 00:23:27,970 --> 00:23:23,289 blue yes you get that reference yes I do 538 00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:27,980 and so you know the people like you know 539 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:32,840 approached the FAA I recall and you know 540 00:23:37,539 --> 00:23:35,330 the FAA said oh you know we have nothing 541 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:37,549 to do with this you know I you know you 542 00:23:40,629 --> 00:23:39,110 know you know the thought was like it 543 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:40,639 was coming from airplanes or something 544 00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:43,610 and you know people thought you know 545 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:45,320 maybe it's coming from airplanes I'm 546 00:23:51,249 --> 00:23:48,529 half but FAA denied it like like calm 547 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:51,259 trails or chemtrails kind of stuff well 548 00:23:58,450 --> 00:23:55,190 the theory was proposed the connection 549 00:24:03,639 --> 00:23:58,460 was made that the toilet water in 550 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:03,649 airplanes is blue and so yummy yeah 551 00:24:09,399 --> 00:24:06,710 right I'm sure everyone is familiar with 552 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:09,409 that at with that blue water so yeah in 553 00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:11,450 the toilet in the airplane laboratories 554 00:24:18,989 --> 00:24:15,350 anyway the theory was proposed that if 555 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:18,999 there was a slow leak out of the 556 00:24:25,629 --> 00:24:22,220 drainage valve on the exterior of the 557 00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:25,639 raft that was you know slowly dripping 558 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:29,400 out blue water blue toilet water 559 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:31,890 then it could potentially begin to 560 00:24:36,770 --> 00:24:34,440 freeze on the exterior of the aircraft 561 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:36,780 when the aircraft was at altitude where 562 00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:41,010 you know it's very very cold land and so 563 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:43,980 you know so maybe a big chunk of blue 564 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:45,870 ice you know started to form on the 565 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:47,340 outside of the airplane and then fell 566 00:24:55,670 --> 00:24:52,190 off and so we went to a NASA facility 567 00:25:00,800 --> 00:24:55,680 where was it I think it was a Cleveland 568 00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:00,810 OH ah they have vaccine research wind 569 00:25:07,010 --> 00:25:02,700 tunnel where you know it's a wind tunnel 570 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:07,020 where they test you know Eric banana and 571 00:25:11,450 --> 00:25:09,390 that sorry Duncan you're at you're 572 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:11,460 making up a little bit what uh what was 573 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,510 that last sentence um it was a we tested 574 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:17,520 the myth of the blue-ice added at a NASA 575 00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:20,130 facility am i coming in okay yeah now 576 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:24,630 you're great ok so we what we did we 577 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:28,770 built a sort of a model of a of an 578 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:31,020 airplane fuselage and we got the actual 579 00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:34,890 valve of a of an airplane toilet water 580 00:25:39,620 --> 00:25:38,160 drain valve and set it up in this wind 581 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:39,630 tunnel and the wind tunnel has the 582 00:25:43,850 --> 00:25:41,850 ability to you know lower its 583 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:43,860 temperature down to like you know minus 584 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:46,650 60 degrees Celsius you know and they're 585 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:48,630 able to simulate conditions of airliners 586 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:51,840 flying at cruising altitude and so we 587 00:25:56,900 --> 00:25:54,510 you know we we had a big tank of blue 588 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:56,910 toilet water that led down to the actual 589 00:26:03,380 --> 00:25:58,500 valve that would have been found on an 590 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:03,390 aircraft and we we started up the wind 591 00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:05,850 tunnel you know 500 mile per hour wind 592 00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:08,430 and we lower the temperature down to you 593 00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:11,070 know I'm not sure exactly what it is but 594 00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:13,590 it's you know something negative 40 595 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:17,640 degrees Fahrenheit and we induced a slow 596 00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:20,850 drip of this blue water and calm and 597 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:24,980 after a period of about 30 or 40 minutes 598 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:29,490 we had a like a soccer ball sized chunk 599 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:31,650 of blue ice on the side of the plane or 600 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:34,110 the side of our you know fuselage that 601 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:37,650 we had built and we had this giant chunk 602 00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:39,330 that formed and we were all like you 603 00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:42,030 know kind of amazed and then we 604 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:43,380 simulated 605 00:26:48,770 --> 00:26:45,570 what would happen when the airplane 606 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:48,780 began its descent so you know we started 607 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:51,450 slowly raising the temperature of the 608 00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:55,170 wind tunnel and you know so you know all 609 00:26:57,980 --> 00:26:56,790 of a sudden that the temperatures you 610 00:27:00,860 --> 00:26:57,990 know getting you know higher and higher 611 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:00,870 and then all at once the entire chunk of 612 00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:03,900 blue I released from from the fuselage 613 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:06,420 section that we'd belt land it was just 614 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:09,690 such a glaringly obvious result that 615 00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:13,020 this could actually have happened that I 616 00:27:19,910 --> 00:27:16,020 I think we must have called that one 617 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:19,920 confirmed so that that's messed up and 618 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,110 was did anything ever happened with the 619 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:24,480 FAA after that or was anybody ever 620 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:27,210 called or was there like I did people 621 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:29,160 complain do you think do you know any of 622 00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:31,650 the story I don't I don't know any of 623 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:36,270 the story after but but you know if I 624 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:38,310 had to guess I think the FAA would have 625 00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:41,760 still denied it yeah sure sure but it 626 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:43,320 who knows like I couldn't say for sure 627 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:47,670 they tend to so you deal a lot with the 628 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:52,770 FAA because you fly drones right you 629 00:27:58,430 --> 00:27:54,420 have to sort of comply with a lot of 630 00:28:00,890 --> 00:27:58,440 their regulations absolutely and it's a 631 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:00,900 very gray area that we're in right now 632 00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:04,380 and you know in my experience the FAA is 633 00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:09,870 very slow to make change and a good 634 00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:12,990 thing sorry oh I was going to say and on 635 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,340 that note I'm going to pause you real 636 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:16,320 quick and we'll get back to drones right 637 00:28:19,940 --> 00:28:17,940 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00:32:58,930 you're locked into inception radio 735 00:33:20,940 --> 00:33:02,540 network superior Wisconsin truth funders 736 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:20,950 radio on the inception radio network and 737 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:23,450 welcome back to truth funders radio this 738 00:33:29,770 --> 00:33:25,580 is mark Schwartz CEO of truth funders 739 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:29,780 and with me online live is Duncan Clark 740 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:32,720 and Duncan is cameraman for the very 741 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:35,090 popular television show MythBusters he 742 00:33:39,970 --> 00:33:38,090 is also a drone operator and so right 743 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:39,980 before we went to break we started 744 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:42,890 talking about drones so I want to bring 745 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:45,290 that back up and once again if you have 746 00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:47,510 a question that you want to ask Duncan 747 00:33:51,250 --> 00:33:49,340 regarding something that you might have 748 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:51,260 seen on Mythbusters or about drones 749 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:53,510 please feel free to call in this might 750 00:33:57,460 --> 00:33:55,310 be your only chance to get some burning 751 00:33:59,530 --> 00:33:57,470 questions that you've you've wanted to 752 00:34:06,570 --> 00:33:59,540 have answered for a while you can call 753 00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:06,580 in at 8 8 8 9 192 355 that's 8 8 8 9 192 754 00:34:11,770 --> 00:34:10,190 355 so Duncan right before we went to 755 00:34:13,930 --> 00:34:11,780 break you were starting to talk a little 756 00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:13,940 bit about drones would you like to tell 757 00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:15,980 us a little bit about how you got into 758 00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:18,080 them and then maybe we'll head into some 759 00:34:22,780 --> 00:34:19,820 of the the things that you're noticing 760 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,790 with FAA and and some of the new laws 761 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,280 that are starting to crop up absolutely 762 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:27,440 well I've been interested in aviation 763 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:32,000 for a very long time and with that I 764 00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:34,130 sort of started getting into radio 765 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:37,580 controlled aircraft and you know I was 766 00:34:41,410 --> 00:34:39,650 doing that for a while and you know also 767 00:34:44,410 --> 00:34:41,420 you know doing camera work 768 00:34:47,530 --> 00:34:44,420 professionally and you know it wasn't 769 00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:47,540 long before I started putting cameras on 770 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:53,300 radio controlled airplanes and and so 771 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:55,340 somewhere along the line you know 772 00:35:01,330 --> 00:34:58,570 probably about five years ago or so 773 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:01,340 multi-rotor helicopter started coming on 774 00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:03,730 the scene and you know I might add that 775 00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:06,350 you know there have there have been 776 00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:08,990 people doing aerial cinematography 777 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:12,320 aerial camera work with you know radio 778 00:35:17,859 --> 00:35:15,010 controlled helicopters for some time but 779 00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:17,869 it's the the technology that has come 780 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:19,820 about more recently that has really 781 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:23,270 enabled some spectacular you know the 782 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:26,960 ability to get spectacular results you 783 00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:30,890 know with a radio-controlled drone as as 784 00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:32,680 you know people have been calling 785 00:35:39,310 --> 00:35:35,840 literally the longest time I really 786 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:39,320 didn't like the the word drone because 787 00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:42,170 to me it sort of him well it kind of 788 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:45,260 implies a you know sort of an autonomous 789 00:35:50,170 --> 00:35:47,720 military you know surveillance and 790 00:35:51,460 --> 00:35:50,180 attack vehicle you know I mean I guess 791 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:51,470 that's probably just because you know we 792 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:52,940 see in the news you know the military 793 00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,040 you know sending drones to Afghanistan 794 00:35:59,920 --> 00:35:58,160 and so forth um you know where is you 795 00:36:02,410 --> 00:35:59,930 know yeah that's actually what I think 796 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:02,420 about you know I think I think people 797 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:05,210 think about drones coming in and spying 798 00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:07,730 on people through windows drones 799 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:10,670 listening in to people you know cops 800 00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,170 have a whole bunch of drones now and 801 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:14,720 people also think about drones as you 802 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:19,250 know going into like Iran or Iraq sorry 803 00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:22,090 and you know bombing a bunch of people 804 00:36:27,849 --> 00:36:25,160 so if they have kind of the word drone 805 00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:27,859 definitely has a strange ring to it it 806 00:36:31,810 --> 00:36:30,440 sounds ominous yeah I feel like you know 807 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:31,820 it sort of has a negative connotation 808 00:36:36,910 --> 00:36:34,580 and you know the the way that I use 809 00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:36,920 drones I mean as you can see I've 810 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:38,840 completely started using the term 811 00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:40,730 because it sort of just taken hold in 812 00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,640 the in the public eye but you know when 813 00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:46,160 I'm operating a drone it is in no way 814 00:36:49,930 --> 00:36:48,020 autonomous at all you know I'm in 815 00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:49,940 complete control of it the whole that 816 00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:53,359 you know all the time that being said 817 00:36:58,570 --> 00:36:55,369 the the technology has gotten this to a 818 00:37:01,150 --> 00:36:58,580 point where you know if if a problem 819 00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:01,160 should arise say you know you fly too 820 00:37:06,609 --> 00:37:03,640 far away and you go out of radio range 821 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:06,619 the drones you know these days do have 822 00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:08,570 the ability to go into an autonomous 823 00:37:13,450 --> 00:37:10,940 mode and return to you and land 824 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:13,460 automatically which is you know a really 825 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:16,490 nice feature to have you know 826 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:18,650 additionally there you know it's also 827 00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:22,450 very accessible and and easy to adapt 828 00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,640 you know autonomous functions and you 829 00:37:30,430 --> 00:37:27,200 know it's just remarkable you know how 830 00:37:31,809 --> 00:37:30,440 how quickly the technology is moving you 831 00:37:34,569 --> 00:37:31,819 know before I was talking about people 832 00:37:38,109 --> 00:37:34,579 doing aerial cinematography with with 833 00:37:39,609 --> 00:37:38,119 radio controlled helicopters and you 834 00:37:42,250 --> 00:37:39,619 know they're there were certainly a lot 835 00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:42,260 of really you know there was you know 836 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,260 good good material you know produced 837 00:37:51,849 --> 00:37:48,880 from from you know that sort of platform 838 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:51,859 but you know as you know one of one of 839 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:55,369 the big you know things to change in 840 00:38:01,480 --> 00:37:57,770 more recent years is battery technology 841 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,490 and ice you know up until recently if 842 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:04,480 you wanted to lift you know any you know 843 00:38:10,809 --> 00:38:08,000 reasonably heavy camera or you know 844 00:38:13,809 --> 00:38:10,819 payload you need to use gasoline engine 845 00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:13,819 and there you know they can be very loud 846 00:38:18,609 --> 00:38:16,460 and you know there are a lot of 847 00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:18,619 downsides to those whereas now you know 848 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:20,839 we're seeing the energy density of 849 00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:23,210 batteries you know getting a lot better 850 00:38:31,059 --> 00:38:28,609 and and you know so you know what some 851 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:31,069 of the things that that have sort of 852 00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:34,089 come into existence with these drones is 853 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:37,460 you know combination of the the battery 854 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:39,710 technology that's allowing for longer 855 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:43,040 flight times with you know clean quieter 856 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:46,970 electric power and then the the sensor 857 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:49,480 technology is is the other thing that is 858 00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:53,030 has made it possible and interestingly 859 00:38:58,450 --> 00:38:55,849 and you know I impossible as well as 860 00:39:01,180 --> 00:38:58,460 affordable which i think is one of the 861 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:01,190 big things to touch on you know 862 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:03,770 everybody nowadays has their as their 863 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,690 smartphone with you know internal 864 00:39:10,109 --> 00:39:08,000 sensors you know they have internal 865 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:10,119 accelerometers and gyroscopes that 866 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:14,210 essentially give your phone you know it 867 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:16,910 knows its orientation in space you know 868 00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:19,010 and and I just want to say real quick 869 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:20,960 Duncan for those of you listening right 870 00:39:26,799 --> 00:39:24,470 now if you go to Facebook and go to 871 00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:26,809 truth funders on facebook you will see a 872 00:39:32,049 --> 00:39:28,940 picture of Duncan holding one of his 873 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,059 drone cameras on facebook now it's at a 874 00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:34,480 strange angle because it was recorded 875 00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:36,200 oblong and sideways 876 00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,180 is but you will be able to see some of 877 00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:39,920 the drones that he is talking about 878 00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:43,040 right now as well as some of the sensors 879 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:47,660 that he's discussing um so uh you know 880 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:51,050 and the the you know the cell phone 881 00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:53,450 technology has made you know all of this 882 00:39:58,990 --> 00:39:55,369 affordable because it's it's in the mass 883 00:40:00,940 --> 00:39:59,000 market and you know it's glorious and so 884 00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:00,950 I'll talk a little bit about you know 885 00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:04,190 the benefits to these multi rotor drones 886 00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:05,900 that you know are sort of the most 887 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:08,420 common that we're seeing out there these 888 00:40:13,180 --> 00:40:12,050 days so pretty much that they operate 889 00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:13,190 you know they have a flight controller 890 00:40:18,609 --> 00:40:15,920 that you know that uses a you know 891 00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:18,619 combination of you know accelerometers 892 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:22,400 gyroscopes GPS antennas as well as as 893 00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:25,730 magnetic compasses and barometers that 894 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:28,910 pretty much make the craft aware of its 895 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:32,930 orientation in space and you know is it 896 00:40:37,210 --> 00:40:34,190 the same sort of thing that they're 897 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:37,220 using on the new Google car that the 898 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:40,670 driverless Google car I'm sure a lot of 899 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:43,520 the technology is the same certainly GPS 900 00:40:48,819 --> 00:40:46,730 and you know you know I know that there 901 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:48,829 are there are a lot of autonomous cars 902 00:40:55,630 --> 00:40:51,140 and other vehicles that incorporate 903 00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:55,640 other technology radar sonar you know 904 00:41:00,760 --> 00:40:57,920 all these you know various sensors and 905 00:41:03,609 --> 00:41:00,770 technologies that increase the you know 906 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:03,619 the situational awareness of the vehicle 907 00:41:08,380 --> 00:41:06,740 and you know we're starting to see some 908 00:41:10,359 --> 00:41:08,390 of those more advanced technologies 909 00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,369 implemented in you know some of the 910 00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:12,079 drones that we're seeing out on the 911 00:41:20,140 --> 00:41:15,680 market today and you know it's certainly 912 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:20,150 a big it's a it's a huge hobbyist you 913 00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:23,900 know the area as well and you know a lot 914 00:41:29,230 --> 00:41:25,700 of this stuff is being pioneered by the 915 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:29,240 hobbyist and you know just the ability 916 00:41:34,809 --> 00:41:32,710 these days for you know there to be 917 00:41:36,339 --> 00:41:34,819 communication between people you know I 918 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:36,349 mean we were talking about online dating 919 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:39,140 or a little bit earlier and you know i 920 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,690 mean the internet and you know social 921 00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:43,520 media and you know all these things you 922 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,300 know the ability for people to come 923 00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,240 together share ideas and 924 00:41:55,870 --> 00:41:52,160 you know pretty much just you know it 925 00:41:57,780 --> 00:41:55,880 really is an effective way of pushing 926 00:42:00,280 --> 00:41:57,790 the technology when you can combine 927 00:42:03,490 --> 00:42:00,290 different ideas and different minds 928 00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:03,500 together absolutely so so do you find 929 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:05,030 that people are building their own 930 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:07,250 drones that their it's not just store 931 00:42:12,310 --> 00:42:09,890 box store bought stuff like right out of 932 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:12,320 the box and they're using them and what 933 00:42:18,730 --> 00:42:15,410 are they using them for or they are they 934 00:42:22,270 --> 00:42:18,740 creating their own drones that do things 935 00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:22,280 that they you know want them to do just 936 00:42:26,859 --> 00:42:25,190 out of their own creativity like a not 937 00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:26,869 just a camera but are they used for 938 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:29,630 other other purposes as well absolutely 939 00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:32,380 I mean you know I think there's a huge 940 00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:36,200 hobbyist you know industry for this kind 941 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:42,260 of thing and you know I mean when I you 942 00:42:45,609 --> 00:42:43,670 know it was really cool when I you know 943 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:45,619 and I certainly still consider myself a 944 00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:50,570 hobbyist and you know when I one of the 945 00:42:55,420 --> 00:42:52,340 things that really sort of got me into 946 00:42:57,580 --> 00:42:55,430 the whole camera work thing was fpv 947 00:43:00,190 --> 00:42:57,590 radio control flying which stands for 948 00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:00,200 first person view and so pretty much 949 00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:03,460 people started putting cameras that 950 00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:05,750 transmitted the video down to them on 951 00:43:11,050 --> 00:43:08,390 the ground and you know pretty much 952 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:11,060 enables you to fly a radio-controlled 953 00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:14,410 aircraft from a pilot's perspective and 954 00:43:20,859 --> 00:43:16,940 you know that was just the coolest thing 955 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:20,869 to me to be able to do that and you know 956 00:43:30,330 --> 00:43:23,510 oh it's getting better and better all 957 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:30,340 the time I saw something online a guy 958 00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:35,210 built a a an FP v radio-control airplane 959 00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:39,470 and utilized directional antennas to be 960 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:42,350 able to you know get you know an invidi 961 00:43:48,580 --> 00:43:44,090 o image as well as be able to control 962 00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:48,590 the airplane from really far away and he 963 00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:53,720 sent it up on a gas balloon you know so 964 00:43:59,920 --> 00:43:55,609 he launched it from Earth on a gas 965 00:44:03,010 --> 00:43:59,930 balloon and sent this thing up into I 966 00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:03,020 don't know exactly the altitude that he 967 00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:03,980 achieved 968 00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:08,900 but it was I would guess you know above 969 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:12,070 fifty thousand feet or more um 970 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:15,530 potentially you know even I mean when 971 00:44:22,180 --> 00:44:17,990 you see the video he might as well be in 972 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:22,190 what you consider outer space and still 973 00:44:29,890 --> 00:44:25,760 was able to have radio control and video 974 00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:29,900 from his airplane and so so do you think 975 00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:35,359 then you know it takes a lot to create 976 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:37,220 something like that it takes brains and 977 00:44:43,450 --> 00:44:41,090 it takes time and patience do you find 978 00:44:46,450 --> 00:44:43,460 that there are are there particular 979 00:44:49,570 --> 00:44:46,460 places that people go to fly the drones 980 00:44:52,210 --> 00:44:49,580 or to create them or is it just anywhere 981 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:52,220 that people can go and and also on top 982 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:54,020 of that do you know a lot of drone 983 00:44:58,900 --> 00:44:56,450 operators is it something that more and 984 00:45:03,670 --> 00:44:58,910 more people are doing or is it just you 985 00:45:05,740 --> 00:45:03,680 have to know somebody to you know do you 986 00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:05,750 have to have a life sure is there any is 987 00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:08,200 there any sort of specifics you need 988 00:45:14,380 --> 00:45:12,230 well you know for a long time there's 989 00:45:16,570 --> 00:45:14,390 been a an association called the arrow 990 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:16,580 modelers this association that has sort 991 00:45:24,310 --> 00:45:19,910 of been the governing by people things 992 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:24,320 radio can their crap it's never been the 993 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:27,200 big of a hobby and it's never really do 994 00:45:31,780 --> 00:45:30,170 like it's becoming today because now we 995 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:31,790 go to your local park and you see people 996 00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:35,210 flying I don't know you're starting to 997 00:45:41,050 --> 00:45:38,600 break up just a little bit um let's see 998 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,060 maybe if you stand still you might be 999 00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:42,560 able to get some some great reception 1000 00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:45,590 somewhere how my company my company okay 1001 00:45:50,310 --> 00:45:48,109 now you're great yeah so you're talking 1002 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:50,320 about you know people go to the park 1003 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:52,970 yeah well you know we're seeing these 1004 00:45:58,420 --> 00:45:56,570 things being flown more and more and you 1005 00:46:00,099 --> 00:45:58,430 know because of that I think you know 1006 00:46:03,849 --> 00:46:00,109 the safety concerns are becoming more 1007 00:46:05,950 --> 00:46:03,859 and more you know relevant because you 1008 00:46:09,550 --> 00:46:05,960 know i mean it's it's not that difficult 1009 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:09,560 to build a you know heavy fast-moving 1010 00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,530 flying drone that could potentially 1011 00:46:17,799 --> 00:46:15,440 cause you know damage or injury to 1012 00:46:22,989 --> 00:46:17,809 people or property 1013 00:46:26,589 --> 00:46:22,999 and so currently there are no laws that 1014 00:46:30,009 --> 00:46:26,599 govern you know average people from 1015 00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:30,019 going out and flying these things the 1016 00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:34,609 FAA does however restrict the commercial 1017 00:46:41,229 --> 00:46:38,209 use of them it is technically against an 1018 00:46:44,349 --> 00:46:41,239 FAA regulation to operate a drone for 1019 00:46:45,579 --> 00:46:44,359 hire for any sort of you know anything 1020 00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:45,589 that has to do with money you're not 1021 00:46:52,749 --> 00:46:48,680 allowed to do it oh so you can only be a 1022 00:46:56,799 --> 00:46:52,759 drone operator if you are a hobbyist and 1023 00:46:59,339 --> 00:46:56,809 you can't be doing it for financial 1024 00:47:02,769 --> 00:46:59,349 purposes so let's say somebody wanted to 1025 00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:02,779 hire a private investigator to spy on 1026 00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:06,049 them on somebody else and this person 1027 00:47:10,089 --> 00:47:07,910 because i was reading an article before 1028 00:47:12,219 --> 00:47:10,099 our interview today that a lot of 1029 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:12,229 private investigators are using drones 1030 00:47:18,189 --> 00:47:15,410 to spy on you know people cheating on 1031 00:47:21,459 --> 00:47:18,199 their wives or whatever the case might 1032 00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:21,469 be that person could not actually 1033 00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:25,519 legally take money for using this drone 1034 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:28,609 without a license or do you I mean or if 1035 00:47:32,799 --> 00:47:30,410 you had a license could he take money 1036 00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:32,809 for it or is he not allowed to do it at 1037 00:47:39,459 --> 00:47:36,079 all he would not be allowed to do it at 1038 00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:39,469 all unless that individual was able to 1039 00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:44,660 obtain an FAA part 3 33 exemption now 1040 00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:48,140 the colt is it to get that um it 1041 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:52,670 requires lawyers and money and you know 1042 00:47:59,859 --> 00:47:57,170 I the you know one of the major uses of 1043 00:48:01,989 --> 00:47:59,869 drones you know is in cinematography I 1044 00:48:04,419 --> 00:48:01,999 mean we're starting to see you know the 1045 00:48:07,529 --> 00:48:04,429 use of these things in television and 1046 00:48:11,709 --> 00:48:07,539 film and it's becoming easier to obtain 1047 00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:11,719 one of these for you know for media 1048 00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:14,989 usage now for private investigation 1049 00:48:24,099 --> 00:48:19,849 that's I couldn't say but you know in in 1050 00:48:26,979 --> 00:48:24,109 addition to it is possible to to obtain 1051 00:48:29,469 --> 00:48:26,989 a you know a quote license to be able to 1052 00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:29,479 do it legally but you know you're doing 1053 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:31,550 it as if you know 1054 00:48:37,090 --> 00:48:33,950 these things are treated by the FAA as 1055 00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:37,100 aircraft and while they you know they 1056 00:48:41,710 --> 00:48:39,350 are you know and another important thing 1057 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:41,720 to note I think is that technically they 1058 00:48:46,930 --> 00:48:44,000 are referred to ua s which stands for 1059 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:46,940 unmanned aerial systems and that is you 1060 00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:49,010 know a combination of the flying vehicle 1061 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:52,340 in the sky and the pilot operating them 1062 00:49:00,720 --> 00:48:57,010 from the ground and so you know you know 1063 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:00,730 while there are you know sort of 1064 00:49:06,370 --> 00:49:03,290 standardized routes to obtain an 1065 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:06,380 exemption for you know uses like camera 1066 00:49:10,990 --> 00:49:08,810 work you know it's it's pretty much done 1067 00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:11,000 as far as I as far as I know on a 1068 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:13,550 case-by-case basis but there are 1069 00:49:18,730 --> 00:49:16,130 certainly so many other uses in addition 1070 00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:18,740 to to camera work that you know that 1071 00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:20,750 these things are are you know really 1072 00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:22,550 beneficial and I think we're going to 1073 00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:25,790 really start to see drones used you know 1074 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:29,270 in all sorts of industries a friend of 1075 00:49:36,220 --> 00:49:32,890 mine has a company that uses them for 1076 00:49:40,450 --> 00:49:36,230 inspection of wind turbines and solar 1077 00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:40,460 panel arrays and you know they're able 1078 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:43,460 to use drone to take incredibly high 1079 00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,910 resolution photographs of wit you know 1080 00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:48,800 giant wind terminal echt rissa t 1081 00:49:53,830 --> 00:49:52,040 generating wind turbines and are they're 1082 00:49:56,110 --> 00:49:53,840 able to you know you know look for 1083 00:49:59,590 --> 00:49:56,120 cracks and you know leaks and and so 1084 00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,600 forth and they can accomplish you know 1085 00:50:05,170 --> 00:50:01,760 at a fraction of the cost what it would 1086 00:50:08,170 --> 00:50:05,180 take you know many people you know weeks 1087 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:08,180 to do and not to mention you're not you 1088 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:10,490 know sending people you know up really 1089 00:50:13,660 --> 00:50:12,050 high and you know there's there's a lot 1090 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:13,670 of risk involved with sending people up 1091 00:50:19,710 --> 00:50:16,610 to do these inspections and you know so 1092 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:19,720 the there's so many safety and economic 1093 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:21,890 reasons why you know this sort of thing 1094 00:50:26,290 --> 00:50:24,170 is becoming really I you know we're 1095 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:26,300 going to start to see this a lot in the 1096 00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:29,120 future I'd imagine that we definitely 1097 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:31,580 would you know there's a host of a radio 1098 00:50:37,060 --> 00:50:34,370 show on named Jimmy church and he has a 1099 00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:37,070 show fade to black and maybe it was a 1100 00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:39,920 year a year and a half ago he came up 1101 00:50:44,310 --> 00:50:41,720 with you know because we we talk about 1102 00:50:48,060 --> 00:50:44,320 the paranormal a lot on this show 1103 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:48,070 he there was a underwater base that he 1104 00:50:53,850 --> 00:50:51,130 you know believed to have found or some 1105 00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:53,860 strange geological evidence it was one 1106 00:51:00,210 --> 00:50:57,220 of the two and it was really deep in the 1107 00:51:02,910 --> 00:51:00,220 ocean a little too far for the normal 1108 00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:02,920 man to go swim in and too deep for 1109 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:05,590 someone to really go diving in it would 1110 00:51:10,530 --> 00:51:07,930 be expensive you would need a whole 1111 00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:10,540 diving crew a boat you know to go really 1112 00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:12,400 explore some of this underwater stuff 1113 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:14,680 now there is there are companies 1114 00:51:20,130 --> 00:51:17,290 creating underwater drones right so for 1115 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:20,140 a fraction of what it would be to go out 1116 00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:22,630 and figure out what's happening at this 1117 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:25,960 underwater base in Malibu without you 1118 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:29,260 know going and and and hiring the 1119 00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:33,370 professional scuba diver and you know it 1120 00:51:36,810 --> 00:51:35,080 is it possible have you heard of these 1121 00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:36,820 underwater drones that could go and 1122 00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:39,790 potentially Scout underneath the water 1123 00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:42,400 yeah absolutely and you know i mean like 1124 00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:43,750 that sort of thing has been available 1125 00:51:49,710 --> 00:51:47,710 but on the extremely expensive end of 1126 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:49,720 the spectrum you know like Kyle Terry 1127 00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:51,250 and like you know high-end research 1128 00:51:56,490 --> 00:51:54,550 companies and so forth but you know that 1129 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,500 just like aerial drones underwater 1130 00:52:02,130 --> 00:51:58,960 drones are are going to be just as big 1131 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:02,140 of you know of a thing I think in in the 1132 00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:04,810 coming years which is so cool I mean and 1133 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:07,000 if there's just so many many other uses 1134 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:10,450 I mean you know exploration is a big one 1135 00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:12,610 I mean you're able to explore and gather 1136 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,670 data and you know take photographs or 1137 00:52:20,990 --> 00:52:17,680 videos of places that you otherwise 1138 00:52:23,850 --> 00:52:21,000 could never do or never do safely and 1139 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:23,860 it's becoming so accessible and 1140 00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:26,650 affordable that you know I think a lot 1141 00:52:31,890 --> 00:52:28,780 of people can can get into this as a 1142 00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:31,900 hobby and you know it's it's really 1143 00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:34,000 going to take hold in the you know the 1144 00:52:41,550 --> 00:52:38,380 professional realms as well that's it's 1145 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:41,560 fascinating and and what about Amazon I 1146 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,170 know that they are trying to do their 1147 00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:46,720 marketplace and have their packages sent 1148 00:52:52,830 --> 00:52:48,430 by drones do you know much about that 1149 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:52,840 and there certainly has had yeah I mean 1150 00:52:58,150 --> 00:52:54,370 I've certainly heard about it I don't 1151 00:53:02,230 --> 00:52:58,160 know what the fááá stand is on it and 1152 00:53:04,270 --> 00:53:02,240 you know I mean it's like it's hard for 1153 00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:04,280 me to say to believe that that's 1154 00:53:11,830 --> 00:53:06,860 actually going to happen but then again 1155 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:11,840 you know I ate very well might you know 1156 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:13,490 I mean these things are getting safer 1157 00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:16,970 and safer redundant systems that you 1158 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:19,160 know you know these things they're 1159 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:21,170 becoming self-aware and you know they 1160 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:23,690 have and well one of the one of the cool 1161 00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:25,850 things about the multirotors is you can 1162 00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:27,830 have redundancy with you know there's a 1163 00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:29,060 lot of people are familiar with a 1164 00:53:34,690 --> 00:53:31,880 quadcopter you know four propellers but 1165 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:34,700 by having more you can potentially lose 1166 00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:37,850 propellers or lose motors and it'll 1167 00:53:44,050 --> 00:53:41,150 still fly just fine um so they're 1168 00:53:47,830 --> 00:53:44,060 becoming safer I think one of the 1169 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:47,840 biggest limiting factors for package 1170 00:53:54,430 --> 00:53:51,650 delivery is is going to be flight time 1171 00:53:58,510 --> 00:53:54,440 limited by the batteries that we have 1172 00:54:02,170 --> 00:53:58,520 today because even our even the best 1173 00:54:06,670 --> 00:54:02,180 batteries that are out there now are 1174 00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,680 nowhere near as energetic well they 1175 00:54:11,470 --> 00:54:08,000 don't have the energy density of 1176 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:11,480 gasoline say gasoline has ten times the 1177 00:54:16,180 --> 00:54:14,210 energy density of the best batteries 1178 00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:16,190 that we have out there today I don't 1179 00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:18,590 know if that's an exact statistic but 1180 00:54:23,830 --> 00:54:22,310 it's it's something like that and but 1181 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:23,840 that being said you know I mean we're 1182 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:25,610 seeing more and more electric cars in 1183 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:27,530 the battery technologies getting better 1184 00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:30,650 but you know for instance on I have a 1185 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:34,910 large camera carrying drone it weighs 1186 00:54:41,620 --> 00:54:38,530 about 25 pounds you know ready to fly 1187 00:54:45,210 --> 00:54:41,630 it's about a meter in diameter and it 1188 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:45,220 stands when its legs are down about oh 1189 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:50,330 maybe three feet three feet tall and you 1190 00:54:58,540 --> 00:54:54,050 know it's sizable it's big and you know 1191 00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,550 I get about mmm 15 minutes at most per 1192 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:01,760 flight oh wow so that's I mean that 1193 00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:03,110 really sucks up the battery because 1194 00:55:07,690 --> 00:55:05,630 we're not just talking about operating a 1195 00:55:09,850 --> 00:55:07,700 camera we're talking about the batteries 1196 00:55:11,859 --> 00:55:09,860 for flight and the batteries for liftoff 1197 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:11,869 and I guess you know is 1198 00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:14,089 something that heavy I felt how heavy 1199 00:55:19,809 --> 00:55:16,940 the cameras by themselves are extremely 1200 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:19,819 heavy so once you add the the rest of 1201 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:23,690 the mini helicopter pieces it I imagine 1202 00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:27,710 that does weigh it down and everybody 1203 00:55:34,029 --> 00:55:30,460 gasps can you do like a gas-powered Rome 1204 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:34,039 well one of the one of the reasons that 1205 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:36,410 these multirotors are able to do what 1206 00:55:41,799 --> 00:55:39,650 they do is because you know in one of 1207 00:55:45,730 --> 00:55:41,809 the one of the most glorious things to 1208 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:45,740 me is the only moving parts on the multi 1209 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:48,650 rotor are the motors whereas a 1210 00:55:53,980 --> 00:55:51,170 traditional helicopter you know with a 1211 00:55:57,309 --> 00:55:53,990 single rotor has a very complex 1212 00:56:01,509 --> 00:55:57,319 mechanical system by which the pitch of 1213 00:56:03,549 --> 00:56:01,519 the blades are adjusted in flight so 1214 00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:03,559 that the helicopter can carry out its 1215 00:56:09,130 --> 00:56:06,230 various flight maneuvers whereas on the 1216 00:56:11,049 --> 00:56:09,140 electric multi-rotor all flight 1217 00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:11,059 maneuvers can be carried out simply by 1218 00:56:17,979 --> 00:56:13,400 speeding up and slowing down different 1219 00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:17,989 propellers and as far as I know you 1220 00:56:21,819 --> 00:56:20,180 could not do that at least currently 1221 00:56:24,849 --> 00:56:21,829 with gasoline engines because they don't 1222 00:56:29,710 --> 00:56:24,859 have the precision to speed up and slow 1223 00:56:32,229 --> 00:56:29,720 down so accurately you know and you know 1224 00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:32,239 not having such a complex mechanical 1225 00:56:37,870 --> 00:56:35,180 system also really increases the safety 1226 00:56:41,259 --> 00:56:37,880 I mean a lot can go wrong on a single 1227 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:41,269 rotor helicopter where whereas you know 1228 00:56:46,180 --> 00:56:43,730 an electric-powered multi-rotor are you 1229 00:56:48,370 --> 00:56:46,190 know they just having these you know 1230 00:56:50,979 --> 00:56:48,380 direct drive motors you know there's 1231 00:56:56,349 --> 00:56:50,989 there's very little mechanically to go 1232 00:56:58,479 --> 00:56:56,359 wrong umm so so Duncan we have and I 1233 00:57:00,940 --> 00:56:58,489 hate to pivot and change the 1234 00:57:02,650 --> 00:57:00,950 conversation but the chat room is 1235 00:57:04,539 --> 00:57:02,660 blowing up right now and there's a lot 1236 00:57:06,220 --> 00:57:04,549 of people asking questions and a lot of 1237 00:57:08,349 --> 00:57:06,230 you out there you know if you have 1238 00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,359 questions I would love to hear your 1239 00:57:12,339 --> 00:57:10,160 voices and I love for you to call into 1240 00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:12,349 the show with your questions the number 1241 00:57:20,259 --> 00:57:17,390 is 8 8 8 9 192 355 and Duncan Clark can 1242 00:57:22,930 --> 00:57:20,269 answer your questions about drones now 1243 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:22,940 there's one let's see so one of the 1244 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:25,170 questions that we're getting here 1245 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:27,210 Carol asks does Duncan see the 1246 00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:29,730 possibility that paparazzi will endeavor 1247 00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:32,670 to grab exemptions or is that already 1248 00:57:38,299 --> 00:57:35,460 going on I don't know if it's going on 1249 00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,309 and you know I sort of on that note I 1250 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:40,799 mean you know you think paparazzi you 1251 00:57:45,950 --> 00:57:43,410 think sort of you know nobody nobody 1252 00:57:47,809 --> 00:57:45,960 really has a good opinion of the 1253 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:47,819 paparazzi because it's an invasion of 1254 00:57:55,490 --> 00:57:51,359 privacy and so forth and you know right 1255 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:55,500 now there hasn't been anything really 1256 00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:58,170 bad to happen you know there hasn't been 1257 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:00,839 a big accident nobody's you know crashed 1258 00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,290 a drone into into a freeway causing you 1259 00:58:07,010 --> 00:58:06,000 know loss of life or injuries or 1260 00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:07,020 something like that at least that I've 1261 00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:10,380 heard of and so you know it's a bit 1262 00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:12,630 worrisome to me and I really hope that 1263 00:58:18,380 --> 00:58:15,660 you know people are responsible as 1264 00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:18,390 hobbyists using these things I don't 1265 00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:21,920 know what the FAA will do in terms of 1266 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,569 you know issuing a form of license to to 1267 00:58:33,799 --> 00:58:29,760 paparazzi or something like that I mean 1268 00:58:35,930 --> 00:58:33,809 I feel like out you know they're going 1269 00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:35,940 to be privacy laws that that will come 1270 00:58:44,270 --> 00:58:40,109 into play but you know for me it's like 1271 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:44,280 I so much of this is in the hobbyist 1272 00:58:50,539 --> 00:58:47,520 world and is largely unregulated that 1273 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:50,549 you know I feel like people such as 1274 00:58:57,079 --> 00:58:52,530 myself you know sort of have an 1275 00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:57,089 obligation to represent the hobby of 1276 00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:00,000 flying drones and you know shouldn't 1277 00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:03,599 take it lightly or I mean I've imagined 1278 00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:06,059 someone with like the paparazzi license 1279 00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,339 I think they're just not clever enough 1280 00:59:12,890 --> 00:59:10,799 to think about it yet but maybe they 1281 00:59:14,780 --> 00:59:12,900 already have you know if they were able 1282 00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:14,790 to get a license they be flying drones 1283 00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,790 into Brad Pitt's backyard and looking 1284 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:19,200 through the windows and trying to film 1285 00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:23,369 stuff you know all the time so have you 1286 00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:25,380 heard of anything like that has has 1287 00:59:29,180 --> 00:59:27,240 there been any complaints have you 1288 00:59:31,970 --> 00:59:29,190 noticed anything I haven't heard 1289 00:59:34,460 --> 00:59:31,980 anything I feel like it's only a matter 1290 00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:34,470 of time until something like that does 1291 00:59:40,430 --> 00:59:39,030 happen um you know I I hope 1292 00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:40,440 it doesn't you know I feel like that's 1293 00:59:46,790 --> 00:59:42,990 wishful thinking but you know I feel 1294 00:59:50,930 --> 00:59:46,800 like oh look at this I just found paw on 1295 00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:50,940 Google CBS News paparazzi now using 1296 00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:52,920 drones to hunt down and photograph 1297 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:56,670 celebrities so that's you know they're 1298 01:00:00,260 --> 00:59:57,930 definitely out there they're definitely 1299 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:00,270 thinking about it it doesn't surprise me 1300 01:00:06,830 --> 01:00:03,450 i mean you know i think you know we're 1301 01:00:09,470 --> 01:00:06,840 gonna start to see uh-huh and I don't 1302 01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:09,480 know of anti-drone drones is the right 1303 01:00:14,030 --> 01:00:12,240 word to use but you know do you think 1304 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:14,040 that there would be other drones like 1305 01:00:18,380 --> 01:00:15,870 government drones that shoot down drones 1306 01:00:20,060 --> 01:00:18,390 that don't have license or that are you 1307 01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:20,070 know doing some of the stuff do you 1308 01:00:26,090 --> 01:00:23,520 think that that's possible yeah 1309 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:26,100 absolutely i mean you know if it's rate 1310 01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:28,170 if it becomes regulated you know more 1311 01:00:32,990 --> 01:00:31,110 commonly and you know people are able to 1312 01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:33,000 get licenses to do various activities 1313 01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:36,750 with these things you know in my opinion 1314 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:40,680 and it's believed that they would have 1315 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:42,690 to be equipped with you know like a 1316 01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:44,490 transponder for instance like you know 1317 01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:47,460 in in you know full-scale aviation 1318 01:00:53,540 --> 01:00:50,640 aircraft have transponders and you know 1319 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:53,550 they're visible on radar and you know 1320 01:00:58,610 --> 01:00:56,250 can be identified and and so you know 1321 01:01:00,020 --> 01:00:58,620 people are going to be responsible for 1322 01:01:02,330 --> 01:01:00,030 what they do with their drone and if 1323 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:02,340 they are not responsible they'll be 1324 01:01:08,990 --> 01:01:05,850 prosecuted all right so so right now we 1325 01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:09,000 don't have that going on and you know 1326 01:01:12,830 --> 01:01:10,680 they're definitely is the possibility 1327 01:01:16,940 --> 01:01:12,840 these days for people to do bad things 1328 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:16,950 with unmanned aerial vehicles and and on 1329 01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:19,410 that note Duncan we have to go to break 1330 01:01:24,970 --> 01:01:22,680 but I wanted to just say this quote from 1331 01:01:27,710 --> 01:01:24,980 this article that I'm looking at now 1332 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:27,720 California law already protects areas on 1333 01:01:30,830 --> 01:01:28,740 the ground where people have a 1334 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,840 reasonable expectation of privacy like a 1335 01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:32,880 backyard newly proposed legislation 1336 01:01:38,090 --> 01:01:35,160 would expand that protection to the 1337 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:38,100 skies recently Miley Cyrus posted 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01:07:34,030 --> 01:07:31,940 that Wednesday jun 10 2015 right now we 1462 01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:34,040 are going into the last part of the show 1463 01:07:38,050 --> 01:07:35,750 we have about 20 minutes left of the 1464 01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:38,060 show today so we'd love for you to call 1465 01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:39,620 in Duncan would you like to take some 1466 01:07:44,140 --> 01:07:42,110 questions from the audience definitely 1467 01:07:45,580 --> 01:07:44,150 you know I'd love to hear you know from 1468 01:07:47,590 --> 01:07:45,590 people out there you know if they have 1469 01:07:50,050 --> 01:07:47,600 any questions about the whole you know 1470 01:07:52,210 --> 01:07:50,060 the drone stuff and you know also if 1471 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:52,220 anybody has any information that you 1472 01:07:57,940 --> 01:07:54,290 know that that would be new to me 1473 01:08:00,430 --> 01:07:57,950 because you know I think it's there 1474 01:08:02,020 --> 01:08:00,440 there's a lot of unknowns out there and 1475 01:08:04,090 --> 01:08:02,030 I'd love to hear if you know if anybody 1476 01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:04,100 else out there any of their experiences 1477 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:06,320 flying drones or if they've you know 1478 01:08:10,570 --> 01:08:08,930 singing drones you know doing things 1479 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:10,580 that maybe they shouldn't be doing but 1480 01:08:14,650 --> 01:08:13,370 yeah I'd really love to hear to get some 1481 01:08:17,980 --> 01:08:14,660 questions and hear about people's 1482 01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:17,990 experiences so yeah yeah and you know 1483 01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,940 that that's a really good thought I 1484 01:08:24,220 --> 01:08:21,920 hadn't even thought about that is there 1485 01:08:26,710 --> 01:08:24,230 anyone out there listening right now and 1486 01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,720 once again it's Wednesday June tenth so 1487 01:08:34,210 --> 01:08:28,400 if you're listening live please please 1488 01:08:38,770 --> 01:08:34,220 give us a call at 888 91 92 355 that's 8 1489 01:08:41,380 --> 01:08:38,780 8 8 9 192 355 have you ever actually 1490 01:08:43,480 --> 01:08:41,390 seen a drone or have you not seen a 1491 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:43,490 drone have only heard about them or have 1492 01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:45,770 you seen a drone doing something naughty 1493 01:08:50,860 --> 01:08:49,040 that it shouldn't have um and how often 1494 01:08:52,690 --> 01:08:50,870 have you seen them have you had some 1495 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:52,700 sort of strange experience with the 1496 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:55,250 drone ogen would love to hear your 1497 01:09:01,240 --> 01:08:57,850 comments see you know Duncan gives talks 1498 01:09:04,059 --> 01:09:01,250 he's on other radio shows talking about 1499 01:09:05,559 --> 01:09:04,069 drones and drone usage so maybe you have 1500 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:05,569 an interesting story that you want to 1501 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:08,210 share and he can talk about that and the 1502 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:08,930 next time 1503 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:11,210 you know use on the radio somewhere so 1504 01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:13,730 go ahead and give us a call with your 1505 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:20,600 drone experiences at 88 89 19 to 35 5 so 1506 01:09:26,170 --> 01:09:24,290 that being said Duncan have you what 1507 01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:26,180 what are some strange things that you've 1508 01:09:30,910 --> 01:09:28,670 heard about with with drones have you 1509 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:30,920 ever heard someone tell you a really 1510 01:09:35,950 --> 01:09:33,680 interesting story about it well you know 1511 01:09:40,150 --> 01:09:35,960 I think the privacy thing is a big one 1512 01:09:42,940 --> 01:09:40,160 um you know one thing that you know that 1513 01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:42,950 that's kind of fun made to me is you 1514 01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:45,920 know I ever you know the idea of being 1515 01:09:53,260 --> 01:09:49,820 able to spy on somebody with a drone you 1516 01:09:56,020 --> 01:09:53,270 know at least currently you know if a 1517 01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:56,030 drone was outside your window you'd hear 1518 01:10:03,060 --> 01:09:58,370 you know you'd be very aware that that 1519 01:10:06,940 --> 01:10:03,070 it would be out there um you know that 1520 01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:06,950 quiet at they and but that being said 1521 01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:09,440 you know I mean who knows what what 1522 01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:12,320 somebody's developed out there so you 1523 01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:13,760 know there's there's the there's the 1524 01:10:21,910 --> 01:10:18,350 privacy thing you know and I think just 1525 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:21,920 in general people flying them where they 1526 01:10:28,660 --> 01:10:24,290 shouldn't I mean for me as a general 1527 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:28,670 rule I won't fly it you know I'll ask 1528 01:10:34,450 --> 01:10:31,370 myself you know if if there were to be a 1529 01:10:36,910 --> 01:10:34,460 catastrophic you know malfunction at any 1530 01:10:39,430 --> 01:10:36,920 point during the flight would I be 1531 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:39,440 putting people or property at risk you 1532 01:10:44,830 --> 01:10:40,970 know so essentially if it were to fall 1533 01:10:47,050 --> 01:10:44,840 out of the sky at any point would I land 1534 01:10:51,370 --> 01:10:47,060 on somebody's car or you know come down 1535 01:10:54,220 --> 01:10:51,380 into a road and and so forth so you know 1536 01:10:56,500 --> 01:10:54,230 it's you know that's sort of the biggest 1537 01:10:59,800 --> 01:10:56,510 thing and you know I think with the the 1538 01:11:02,260 --> 01:10:59,810 availability of drones out there you 1539 01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:02,270 know people might sort of fly them 1540 01:11:06,610 --> 01:11:04,070 willy-nilly not really thinking about 1541 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:06,620 the consequences but you know you could 1542 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:08,690 they could pose a serious distraction 1543 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:11,810 you noted motorists and you know in 1544 01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:14,450 addition to you know people might crash 1545 01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:17,030 them you know inexperienced pilot might 1546 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:19,310 crash one into somebody's house or into 1547 01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:21,770 a car so I think those are sort of the 1548 01:11:26,050 --> 01:11:22,880 biggest you 1549 01:11:28,629 --> 01:11:26,060 the most glaring issues and that worries 1550 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:28,639 me more than then sort of the privacy 1551 01:11:33,580 --> 01:11:32,330 concerns but that being said you know I 1552 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:33,590 think the privacy thing is certainly 1553 01:11:38,979 --> 01:11:36,610 very important as well i mean it's it's 1554 01:11:42,939 --> 01:11:38,989 definitely important an important thing 1555 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:42,949 you know that the people people need and 1556 01:11:47,020 --> 01:11:45,530 want their privacy obviously um so you 1557 01:11:52,959 --> 01:11:47,030 know that's sort of the the biggest 1558 01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:52,969 things to that worry me um yeah now now 1559 01:11:58,959 --> 01:11:56,239 I'm neutron in the chat room asks Duncan 1560 01:12:01,990 --> 01:11:58,969 I once saw a picture of a drone shaped 1561 01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:02,000 and the same size as a mosquito does 1562 01:12:09,370 --> 01:12:05,510 this really exist today uh it doesn't 1563 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:09,380 surprise me I mean certainly I mean I've 1564 01:12:16,919 --> 01:12:11,449 heard of the military developing really 1565 01:12:19,330 --> 01:12:16,929 really tiny drones um you know 1566 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:19,340 nanotechnologies sort of on the rise as 1567 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:22,730 well and you know it definitely doesn't 1568 01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:24,650 surprise me that something that small 1569 01:12:28,979 --> 01:12:27,440 could be created I don't think it's 1570 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:28,989 something that would be widely available 1571 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:33,290 but it's remarkable how you know 1572 01:12:37,209 --> 01:12:35,090 technology is getting more and more 1573 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:37,219 powerful but also smaller and smaller 1574 01:12:41,740 --> 01:12:39,530 sure I mean I mean that's that's 1575 01:12:45,250 --> 01:12:41,750 represented in the cameras themselves I 1576 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:45,260 mean you have these really high these 1577 01:12:49,180 --> 01:12:47,570 powerful powerful cameras that can do 1578 01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:49,190 more and more and they're getting 1579 01:12:54,729 --> 01:12:51,710 smaller and smaller let me take a GoPro 1580 01:12:57,250 --> 01:12:54,739 for instance or a DSLR camera out there 1581 01:12:59,290 --> 01:12:57,260 these things before you would have to 1582 01:13:01,840 --> 01:12:59,300 have these huge Beta cams and strap 1583 01:13:04,330 --> 01:13:01,850 batteries like Rambo across your chest I 1584 01:13:06,370 --> 01:13:04,340 used to have to do that and you go 1585 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:06,380 around filming stuff and the quality 1586 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:08,570 wasn't nearly as good as you would get 1587 01:13:13,959 --> 01:13:11,210 with something like the GoPro or a canon 1588 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:13,969 DSLR that stuff now is just like you 1589 01:13:21,850 --> 01:13:16,850 know incredible and it's so much smaller 1590 01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,860 and easier yeah absolutely it's 1591 01:13:25,959 --> 01:13:23,360 remarkable I mean you know the gopros 1592 01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:25,969 are a great example um you know they're 1593 01:13:31,959 --> 01:13:29,150 really tiny and you know produce an 1594 01:13:33,850 --> 01:13:31,969 incredible picture for for their size 1595 01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:33,860 and it's only going to get smaller and 1596 01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:36,110 better and 1597 01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:38,239 no for that reason I think the the 1598 01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:41,510 mosquito sighs drone is absolutely not 1599 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:44,710 out of the question and you know that 1600 01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,530 that you know sort of raises more you 1601 01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:50,239 know privacy issues I mean if you have 1602 01:13:54,970 --> 01:13:53,030 something that small you could fly it 1603 01:13:58,330 --> 01:13:54,980 you know underneath the crack in 1604 01:14:00,550 --> 01:13:58,340 somebody's front door yeah and you know 1605 01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,560 they wouldn't even know that it's that 1606 01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:02,719 it's there and and it would be so small 1607 01:14:07,689 --> 01:14:05,600 and quiet that you know that would that 1608 01:14:10,629 --> 01:14:07,699 would definitely be you know an issue if 1609 01:14:13,540 --> 01:14:10,639 if used inappropriately now i would 1610 01:14:17,109 --> 01:14:13,550 think that it's almost impossible for 1611 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:17,119 something the size of mosquito to to 1612 01:14:22,209 --> 01:14:19,610 record video that you would be able to 1613 01:14:24,220 --> 01:14:22,219 see or to fly something like that but 1614 01:14:28,030 --> 01:14:24,230 maybe i'm completely wrong maybe that's 1615 01:14:31,060 --> 01:14:28,040 you know completely possible I it's hard 1616 01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:31,070 to imagine yeah it is hard to imagine 1617 01:14:39,490 --> 01:14:36,409 and the same time yeah if you think my 1618 01:14:41,890 --> 01:14:39,500 years ago we have a caller right now um 1619 01:14:46,959 --> 01:14:41,900 I'm so I'm gonna break in color are you 1620 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:46,969 there color on the line going once gone 1621 01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:50,810 Oh mother is gone we missed and we 1622 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:52,400 almost had one though I mean I think 1623 01:14:56,109 --> 01:14:53,810 somebody wanted to ask you something so 1624 01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:56,119 um you know if you if you get the chance 1625 01:15:00,910 --> 01:14:59,090 go ahead and call in again we'd love to 1626 01:15:02,919 --> 01:15:00,920 hear you and Duncan would love to answer 1627 01:15:10,030 --> 01:15:02,929 your question so yeah give give us a 1628 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:10,040 call yeah yeah definitely 88 89 1923 of 1629 01:15:17,470 --> 01:15:14,330 55 it's 88 89 1923 55 truth finders 1630 01:15:20,410 --> 01:15:17,480 inception radio so have you been 1631 01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:20,420 witnessed a drone crash or have you ever 1632 01:15:31,090 --> 01:15:26,510 crashed one yourself yeah unfortunately 1633 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:31,100 yes you know I've crashed a few you know 1634 01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:36,530 mostly me being me being stupid you know 1635 01:15:41,229 --> 01:15:39,199 never you know in a situation where i 1636 01:15:44,620 --> 01:15:41,239 was putting anybody or any anything at 1637 01:15:47,890 --> 01:15:44,630 risk but you know where you know my 1638 01:15:49,870 --> 01:15:47,900 primary interest is you know shooting 1639 01:15:52,209 --> 01:15:49,880 video with drones 1640 01:15:53,919 --> 01:15:52,219 and you know sometimes you know I have 1641 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:53,929 to restrain myself because I'll get 1642 01:15:59,410 --> 01:15:56,330 caught up in in the shot that I'm 1643 01:16:04,000 --> 01:15:59,420 getting and usually it's because of poor 1644 01:16:06,370 --> 01:16:04,010 situational awareness um you know you 1645 01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:06,380 and you know certainly the lessons have 1646 01:16:12,939 --> 01:16:09,440 been learned but you know it's it's it's 1647 01:16:15,879 --> 01:16:12,949 generally you know all I'll be you know 1648 01:16:18,129 --> 01:16:15,889 so locked in on a shot that I'll neglect 1649 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:18,139 the fact that there's a tree branch you 1650 01:16:22,629 --> 01:16:20,210 know sticking out and you know it 1651 01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:22,639 doesn't take much to bring them down so 1652 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:24,110 I've had a few at little accidents like 1653 01:16:28,629 --> 01:16:26,690 that but looks like we got a collar back 1654 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:28,639 on the line real quick so color you 1655 01:16:39,790 --> 01:16:34,730 there may be one friend they're trying 1656 01:16:42,430 --> 01:16:39,800 to get through almost there all right 1657 01:16:44,830 --> 01:16:42,440 let's see Colorado waving your phone 1658 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:44,840 around trying to get service it might be 1659 01:16:50,169 --> 01:16:47,690 a Skype Skype issue to call her if you 1660 01:16:51,790 --> 01:16:50,179 are there go ahead and just start 1661 01:16:54,399 --> 01:16:51,800 talking we're going to continue our 1662 01:17:01,870 --> 01:16:54,409 conversation so but go ahead and join us 1663 01:17:03,729 --> 01:17:01,880 at any moment and the number is 14 01 1664 01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:03,739 and I'll leave it at that if your number 1665 01:17:11,590 --> 01:17:06,110 starts with 1401 go ahead and start 1666 01:17:15,970 --> 01:17:11,600 talking but yeah I have crashed them and 1667 01:17:18,459 --> 01:17:15,980 it's not a good feeling me but yeah I 1668 01:17:21,399 --> 01:17:18,469 depend months building it I think that 1669 01:17:24,370 --> 01:17:21,409 it's fairly expensive as well yeah you 1670 01:17:26,140 --> 01:17:24,380 know I mean I've I've had you know 1671 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:26,150 they're not always catastrophic you know 1672 01:17:29,919 --> 01:17:27,650 a lot of times you just break propellers 1673 01:17:32,500 --> 01:17:29,929 and you have to put a few pieces back 1674 01:17:35,890 --> 01:17:32,510 together but you know it it's all 1675 01:17:40,270 --> 01:17:35,900 they've all been good experiences in 1676 01:17:43,629 --> 01:17:40,280 hindsight because you know you you learn 1677 01:17:44,919 --> 01:17:43,639 from your mistakes generally and so you 1678 01:17:48,340 --> 01:17:44,929 know I feel like they've they've made me 1679 01:17:50,530 --> 01:17:48,350 a better drone pilot you know then then 1680 01:17:52,689 --> 01:17:50,540 had I not you know had those little 1681 01:17:55,660 --> 01:17:52,699 mishaps in the back solutely we learned 1682 01:17:58,030 --> 01:17:55,670 from our mistakes um there is a question 1683 01:18:00,760 --> 01:17:58,040 in chat room from punk thug what up what 1684 01:18:03,669 --> 01:18:00,770 up punk thug he can't call in right now 1685 01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:03,679 but he asks what are some ways drones 1686 01:18:07,779 --> 01:18:05,689 be used or she I might say punk thug 1687 01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:07,789 might be if she I just assumed it was a 1688 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:10,400 he my bad one way or the other but um 1689 01:18:14,350 --> 01:18:13,010 punk thug can't call but what are some 1690 01:18:19,509 --> 01:18:14,360 ways drones can be used for 1691 01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:19,519 environmental issues um well certainly 1692 01:18:26,290 --> 01:18:23,320 you know data acquisition of all kinds 1693 01:18:30,699 --> 01:18:26,300 you know you can you could have you know 1694 01:18:36,509 --> 01:18:30,709 weather monitoring drones one 1695 01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:36,519 interesting idea is that I've heard is 1696 01:18:40,839 --> 01:18:39,289 you know maybe you know well 1697 01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:40,849 search-and-rescue not that's not really 1698 01:18:47,739 --> 01:18:45,199 environmental but firefighting drones if 1699 01:18:49,509 --> 01:18:47,749 you if you know you know brush fires 1700 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:49,519 especially out here in California you 1701 01:18:55,719 --> 01:18:52,090 know we're in the middle of drought and 1702 01:18:58,029 --> 01:18:55,729 you know you could send drones in to put 1703 01:19:01,120 --> 01:18:58,039 out small fires you know well in advance 1704 01:19:04,060 --> 01:19:01,130 of you know any any firefighters could 1705 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:04,070 get there and you know so that that's 1706 01:19:09,939 --> 01:19:06,010 sort of one thing that comes to mind um 1707 01:19:13,959 --> 01:19:09,949 let's see um I don't know what do you 1708 01:19:15,129 --> 01:19:13,969 think I mean pretty much you know I feel 1709 01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:15,139 like there's got to be tons of 1710 01:19:22,649 --> 01:19:18,320 environmental uses that you could use 1711 01:19:28,089 --> 01:19:22,659 them for sure I'd imagine you know um 1712 01:19:30,219 --> 01:19:28,099 going around and and scouring I don't 1713 01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:30,229 know the rain forest or fires like where 1714 01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:33,110 the fire is and how big it has to be and 1715 01:19:37,989 --> 01:19:36,199 like what you need to put out yeah I'm 1716 01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,999 sure there's all sorts of uses Punk thug 1717 01:19:41,919 --> 01:19:39,920 if you think of any or if you know of 1718 01:19:43,959 --> 01:19:41,929 any go ahead and I'll let us know in the 1719 01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:43,969 chat room we'd love to talk about them 1720 01:19:51,790 --> 01:19:49,280 online so so yeah so what what us what 1721 01:19:57,549 --> 01:19:51,800 else do you got for us and have you ever 1722 01:19:59,979 --> 01:19:57,559 used a drone you know for for 1723 01:20:02,620 --> 01:19:59,989 entertainment purposes obviously you do 1724 01:20:05,109 --> 01:20:02,630 it Reb you know rectly recreationally as 1725 01:20:08,259 --> 01:20:05,119 a hobby have you ever filmed something 1726 01:20:10,060 --> 01:20:08,269 like a movie using a drone or or send 1727 01:20:13,330 --> 01:20:10,070 stuff up there and something that we 1728 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:13,340 might know or and not for a job but just 1729 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:16,010 as a hobby cuz I think you would say 1730 01:20:20,050 --> 01:20:17,690 that well you know 1731 01:20:21,610 --> 01:20:20,060 mean you know I certainly just enjoy I 1732 01:20:25,150 --> 01:20:21,620 mean you can get beautiful pictures from 1733 01:20:27,970 --> 01:20:25,160 the air and you know while there's 1734 01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:27,980 always the the the possibility to you 1735 01:20:32,590 --> 01:20:30,320 know shoot video from a from a you know 1736 01:20:35,229 --> 01:20:32,600 full-size helicopter one of the cool 1737 01:20:37,420 --> 01:20:35,239 things about drones is that they can go 1738 01:20:40,510 --> 01:20:37,430 where full-size helicopters can't you 1739 01:20:42,910 --> 01:20:40,520 know they can fit into small spaces and 1740 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:42,920 you know go where it might be too risky 1741 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:46,010 to send a full-size helicopter and so 1742 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:49,489 you know I I really enjoy going out you 1743 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:52,250 know early in the morning and you know 1744 01:20:56,979 --> 01:20:54,770 just trying to get beautiful beautiful 1745 01:20:59,200 --> 01:20:56,989 footage and you know there's just really 1746 01:21:01,780 --> 01:20:59,210 some spectacular imagery that you can 1747 01:21:05,380 --> 01:21:01,790 obtain you know with with the camera 1748 01:21:08,740 --> 01:21:05,390 carrying drone so it yet that in and of 1749 01:21:10,090 --> 01:21:08,750 itself is a is a hobby for me and what's 1750 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:10,100 the most beautiful thing you've ever got 1751 01:21:17,530 --> 01:21:14,810 oh man um I've seen some of your work 1752 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:17,540 it's pretty it's pretty incredible I 1753 01:21:21,790 --> 01:21:20,210 mean these are shots that are you can't 1754 01:21:23,709 --> 01:21:21,800 get them anywhere else I mean it's 1755 01:21:27,310 --> 01:21:23,719 something that you you can't even get 1756 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:27,320 from a jib or a crane shot you know yeah 1757 01:21:33,010 --> 01:21:29,570 I mean this stuff is it's high it's 1758 01:21:36,490 --> 01:21:33,020 mighty it's 360 degrees it's it's pretty 1759 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:36,500 incredible yeah absolutely um yeah I 1760 01:21:41,410 --> 01:21:39,050 mean there's there's just so many you 1761 01:21:43,900 --> 01:21:41,420 know in the cinematography world there's 1762 01:21:46,030 --> 01:21:43,910 so many uses you know like you said you 1763 01:21:49,090 --> 01:21:46,040 can get you know crane shots and you can 1764 01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:49,100 get tracking dolly shots and in addition 1765 01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:53,120 to big you know gigantic wide aerial 1766 01:21:59,740 --> 01:21:56,239 shots that you know show expansive you 1767 01:22:01,600 --> 01:21:59,750 know vista's and so forth so you know 1768 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:01,610 creatively there's just no end to what 1769 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:05,570 you can do and you know so that and then 1770 01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:07,610 you know in in combination with you know 1771 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:10,280 some of the other uses for drones you 1772 01:22:14,620 --> 01:22:13,130 know I just I can't I can't keep coming 1773 01:22:16,330 --> 01:22:14,630 you know I can't keep from coming back 1774 01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:16,340 to the idea that these things are going 1775 01:22:23,650 --> 01:22:20,780 to be really prevalent in our society in 1776 01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:23,660 the future but where do they exist I 1777 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:26,480 mean you have so you have the you know 1778 01:22:31,430 --> 01:22:29,840 the skyline then you know really high up 1779 01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:31,440 you have planes 1780 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:34,140 do drones exist somewhere in between I 1781 01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:37,290 mean are they flying around like in 1782 01:22:41,689 --> 01:22:39,300 between where a plane would fly and the 1783 01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:41,699 ground are they are they lower are they 1784 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:45,840 hire above planes I mean aware if I'm if 1785 01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:47,850 I want to go outside and see drones I 1786 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:49,710 hear that they're just everywhere but I 1787 01:22:53,420 --> 01:22:51,210 have to say I don't know if I've 1788 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:53,430 actually ever seen one in real life so 1789 01:22:57,170 --> 01:22:55,530 where would I be able to see one and 1790 01:23:01,729 --> 01:22:57,180 what would I be looking for or looking 1791 01:23:05,090 --> 01:23:01,739 at well I mean you know they certainly 1792 01:23:07,580 --> 01:23:05,100 have the capability of infringing in the 1793 01:23:11,630 --> 01:23:07,590 air space that yet full-sized aircraft 1794 01:23:13,970 --> 01:23:11,640 are operating and you know again that is 1795 01:23:16,250 --> 01:23:13,980 you know a big you know it's a concern 1796 01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:16,260 of mine and it's something that that if 1797 01:23:18,979 --> 01:23:17,520 you know the people out there that are 1798 01:23:21,580 --> 01:23:18,989 interested in getting into this as a 1799 01:23:25,090 --> 01:23:21,590 hobby or otherwise you know need to 1800 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:25,100 realize that you know you have a 1801 01:23:31,310 --> 01:23:28,530 powerful tool and it requires a bit of 1802 01:23:34,130 --> 01:23:31,320 responsibility to you know to think 1803 01:23:36,530 --> 01:23:34,140 about where your operating it I mean you 1804 01:23:38,959 --> 01:23:36,540 know the earlier I mentioned the 1805 01:23:41,660 --> 01:23:38,969 aeronautical you know err not arrow 1806 01:23:44,689 --> 01:23:41,670 modelers Association you know there are 1807 01:23:46,189 --> 01:23:44,699 some rules and regulations that that 1808 01:23:48,650 --> 01:23:46,199 have sort of been in place I don't know 1809 01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:48,660 if they're strict law but you know 1810 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:51,360 generally you know it is it's understood 1811 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:53,370 that you should never operate you know 1812 01:24:00,860 --> 01:23:57,330 of radio-controlled aircraft at greater 1813 01:24:03,830 --> 01:24:00,870 than 400 feet or in the vicinity of an 1814 01:24:06,050 --> 01:24:03,840 airport you know because you know I mean 1815 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:06,060 even though I mr. but get in the way 1816 01:24:10,910 --> 01:24:08,850 yeah I mean you know even a small drone 1817 01:24:14,020 --> 01:24:10,920 you know could take out an aircraft 1818 01:24:16,670 --> 01:24:14,030 engine and could cause you know serious 1819 01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:16,680 Eagles if seagulls could do it I'd 1820 01:24:21,740 --> 01:24:19,980 imagine a drone could yeah and so you 1821 01:24:22,910 --> 01:24:21,750 know I mean and that's one of the scary 1822 01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,920 things is that you know people really 1823 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:24,719 need to be responsible if they're going 1824 01:24:31,550 --> 01:24:27,690 to do this because it is accessible 1825 01:24:34,910 --> 01:24:31,560 these days and and reasonably affordable 1826 01:24:36,770 --> 01:24:34,920 um so you know that that's a big thing 1827 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:36,780 you know you know most people aren't 1828 01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:40,730 flying them at extreme altitude and 1829 01:24:47,250 --> 01:24:44,440 James is there certainly capable 1830 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:47,260 James in the chat room says that there 1831 01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:49,210 was a drone right in front of his porch 1832 01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:52,270 or I'll do the quote from him drone 1833 01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:54,070 right in front of my porch while I was 1834 01:25:02,790 --> 01:24:58,449 doing a bong hit so James that's awesome 1835 01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:02,800 I wonder if that was actually a drone 1836 01:25:06,689 --> 01:25:04,510 that you were seeing or maybe it was 1837 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:06,699 something from the bong hit itself I'm 1838 01:25:14,670 --> 01:25:11,770 not sure also neutron in the chatroom 1839 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:14,680 asks how big with the drone have to be 1840 01:25:23,209 --> 01:25:21,130 to lift an IMAX camera well um the imax 1841 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:23,219 technology is changing pretty 1842 01:25:29,340 --> 01:25:26,170 dramatically as well i mean back in the 1843 01:25:31,410 --> 01:25:29,350 day when when you know I max was shot on 1844 01:25:34,020 --> 01:25:31,420 film and I think I guess it still 1845 01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:34,030 probably is but I do know that a lot of 1846 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:36,880 large format productions are you have 1847 01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:41,290 gone digital you know with with the you 1848 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:42,670 know there are a lot of new cameras now 1849 01:25:49,050 --> 01:25:44,650 they're shooting you know greater than 1850 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:49,060 8k resolution 10k resolution but even so 1851 01:25:53,490 --> 01:25:50,770 that you know in the lenses in 1852 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:53,500 combination with those are are pretty 1853 01:26:00,689 --> 01:25:57,010 heavy but it's not unreasonable to build 1854 01:26:05,340 --> 01:26:00,699 a drone that could lift say you know 1855 01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:05,350 maybe a 50 or 60 pound payload and you 1856 01:26:10,530 --> 01:26:06,550 know it would be a big it would be a 1857 01:26:13,380 --> 01:26:10,540 powerful machine but I mean you really 1858 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:13,390 there is no limit you you could you 1859 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:17,530 could build it but i would say i mean 1860 01:26:24,450 --> 01:26:20,320 they might be referring to you know the 1861 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:24,460 the IMAX camera of yesteryear you know 1862 01:26:30,570 --> 01:26:27,730 the film camera that I don't man I don't 1863 01:26:33,450 --> 01:26:30,580 know how much they weighed but you know 1864 01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:33,460 I would think a lot like it 80 pounds 1865 01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:36,790 even maybe um and you could build 1866 01:26:46,250 --> 01:26:43,800 how big I don't know I mean there's 1867 01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,260 there's a lot of variables involved but 1868 01:26:52,290 --> 01:26:48,400 you'd certainly be dealing with 1869 01:26:58,260 --> 01:26:52,300 something that's you know several meters 1870 01:27:00,330 --> 01:26:58,270 in diameter perhaps but james also 1871 01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:00,340 from the chat room says that the the 1872 01:27:05,070 --> 01:27:02,620 thing he saw was about as big as a small 1873 01:27:06,990 --> 01:27:05,080 bird with four clear wings in a clear 1874 01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:07,000 plastic body does that sound like a 1875 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:11,520 drone sounds like a drum to me you know 1876 01:27:18,570 --> 01:27:14,850 if it's if it's flying and it's a 1877 01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:18,580 man-made object then I would think it is 1878 01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:22,480 um but you know you know I think another 1879 01:27:26,690 --> 01:27:23,950 thing is people should start referring 1880 01:27:30,450 --> 01:27:26,700 to them as unmanned aerial systems 1881 01:27:33,300 --> 01:27:30,460 because you know the drone I don't know 1882 01:27:36,150 --> 01:27:33,310 it kind of just sounds ominous like we 1883 01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:36,160 like we talked about earlier well that's 1884 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:38,080 about it for our show today Duncan I 1885 01:27:44,070 --> 01:27:39,850 want to thank you so much for coming on 1886 01:27:46,770 --> 01:27:44,080 I mean I think you had a ton a ton of 1887 01:27:48,450 --> 01:27:46,780 informative information and it was it's 1888 01:27:50,610 --> 01:27:48,460 a big topic there was a lot of people 1889 01:27:53,490 --> 01:27:50,620 online talking about this today so is it 1890 01:27:56,460 --> 01:27:53,500 was really really cool is there anything 1891 01:28:00,960 --> 01:27:56,470 that you want to point us to or anything 1892 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:00,970 that you know you would like to end this 1893 01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:03,850 this episode of truth funders on well 1894 01:28:09,570 --> 01:28:06,550 you know I mean I think sort of 1895 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:09,580 enclosing uh you know I would say that 1896 01:28:14,190 --> 01:28:12,610 you know while there's there's a fair 1897 01:28:17,310 --> 01:28:14,200 amount of controversy around drones 1898 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:17,320 these days and there's the potential to 1899 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:19,090 do bad things with them there there's 1900 01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,090 also you know tremendous potential to do 1901 01:28:26,910 --> 01:28:24,400 really really good things with them that 1902 01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:26,920 that are gonna you know really advanced 1903 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:30,880 society in positive ways and so you know 1904 01:28:37,170 --> 01:28:35,410 my I would advise and hope that you know 1905 01:28:40,020 --> 01:28:37,180 all the listeners out there if you're 1906 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:40,030 interested in in getting into drones and 1907 01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:41,890 you know flying drones and you know 1908 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:43,840 doing all sorts of things that that you 1909 01:28:48,540 --> 01:28:46,810 do it responsibly and you know sort of 1910 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:48,550 you know realize that you're 1911 01:28:55,260 --> 01:28:52,210 representing the the world of drones by 1912 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:55,270 by doing it yourself and so you know I 1913 01:29:01,440 --> 01:28:56,770 think responsibility is a really 1914 01:29:04,890 --> 01:29:01,450 important thing to put out there and you 1915 01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:04,900 know I think that you know that we're 1916 01:29:08,700 --> 01:29:06,850 going to see just so much somewhat so 1917 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:08,710 many more drones in the future that you 1918 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:10,840 know we want to make sure that you know 1919 01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:12,210 that they're used for good and 1920 01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:14,700 bad there we need to make sure the 1921 01:29:20,300 --> 01:29:17,450 drones are used for love drone love as 1922 01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:20,310 accurate the chatroom said earlier today 1923 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:22,110 so I'm just going to wrap it up with 1924 01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:24,570 that thank you so much Duncan Clark for 1925 01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,340 coming on the show today we truly 1926 01:29:31,420 --> 01:29:28,560 appreciate it I'll be in touch with you 1927 01:29:33,620 --> 01:29:31,430 a little later on I'll give you a call 1928 01:29:35,450 --> 01:29:33,630 thank you everybody in the chat room 1929 01:29:37,340 --> 01:29:35,460 everyone listening live everybody 1930 01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:37,350 listening to this later on this week on 1931 01:29:42,860 --> 01:29:39,780 the podcast on Apple iTunes Thank You 1932 01:29:45,860 --> 01:29:42,870 inception radio network this fur for art 1933 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:45,870 web and me mark Schwartz this is truth 1934 01:29:50,510 --> 01:29:48,090 funders radio on the inception radio 1935 01:29:53,959 --> 01:29:50,520 network and we will catch you next week